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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2008-March-20, 22:23

You hold K109 97 109 KQJ874, all red at IMPs. Partner passes and RHO opens 1H, do you act?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-20, 22:24

textbook 2C overcall
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Posted 2008-March-20, 22:34

Yes.

Now, I need to decide between 2 and 3, but fortunately that was not the question. :)
OK, probably I bid 3, but 2 is also fine. No strong preference between them, but I do prefer both bids to Pass.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 22:38

Would certainly bid 2C with that.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 23:34

I'd bid 2. 3 is okay but too much for me with flat shape and only six.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 00:49

Jlall, on Mar 20 2008, 11:24 PM, said:

textbook 2C overcall

Agreed.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 02:49

Definitely, I want a club lead.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 06:35

That's a 2 overcall to me, but I couldn't have much less than this.

3 at red might be ugly.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 06:42

yeap, 2C it is
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Posted 2008-March-21, 07:18

I'd overcall for 2 main reasons:

1) Taking away some bidding space
2) Making a lead directing bid
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Posted 2008-March-21, 07:33

I suspect that I know where this one might be going:

As Justin notes, this looks to be a fairly textbook 2 overcall. At the same time, even though partner is a passed hand I could easily see us making 4. The combination of a running club suit, heart shortness, and three Spades to an honor makes this a very real possibility...

At the table, I'd bid 2 all day. Since you're posting this as a questions I'm suspious that this might backfire in some way...
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Posted 2008-March-21, 07:37

hrothgar, on Mar 21 2008, 06:33 AM, said:

I suspect that I know where this one might be going:

...I could easily see us making 4.

1) What does this have to do with your decision to act here? I think this is a pretty big stretch anyway; I'd estimate our odds of making 4 here just based on the auction and my hand as very much under 10%.

2) Oh my god, there is no reason for anyone's signature to be that long, ever.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 08:10

rogerclee, on Mar 21 2008, 08:37 AM, said:

2) Oh my god, there is no reason for anyone's signature to be that long, ever.

You can turn off signatures.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 10:29

2 is a ridicoulous overbid (Everyone agrees lol), 3 is risky but explains my hand much better.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 11:11

2 is fine.

I doubt it will cause heart palpitations and dizziness, and it's cheaper than $14.95 (except at a national, where it's $16.50 or so).
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Posted 2008-March-21, 11:31

hrothgar, on Mar 21 2008, 08:33 AM, said:

I suspect that I know where this one might be going:

As Justin notes, this looks to be a fairly textbook 2 overcall. At the same time, even though partner is a passed hand I could easily see us making 4. The combination of a running club suit, heart shortness, and three Spades to an honor makes this a very real possibility...

At the table, I'd bid 2 all day. Since you're posting this as a questions I'm suspious that this might backfire in some way...

If you can make 4S I think overcalling 2C will be by far your best start to getting their (as opposed to 3C or pass) since it will induce partner to bid spades if he has them.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 11:32

If you're playing WJO's at this seat and vulnerability, and you won't WJO with this, what are you waiting for?

(yeah, I know, most of you don't play WJO at this seat & vul).
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Posted 2008-March-21, 12:27

I overcalled 2, nothing dramatic happened.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-21, 13:59

Jlall, on Mar 21 2008, 05:24 PM, said:

textbook 2C overcall

I think this is a fair overcall but I have not seen vulnerable overcalls this light in many textbooks.
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Posted 2008-March-21, 18:24

jtfanclub, on Mar 21 2008, 06:32 PM, said:

If you're playing WJO's at this seat and vulnerability, and you won't WJO with this, what are you waiting for?

More playing strength and shorter majors.

Agreeing to play weak jump overcalls isn't a commitment to make one every time I'm dealt a six card suit.
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