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Another familiar problem

Poll: Your rebid (43 member(s) have cast votes)

Your rebid

  1. 1NT (10 votes [23.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.26%

  2. 2C (13 votes [30.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.23%

  3. 2D (16 votes [37.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.21%

  4. 2H (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

  5. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Would've opened 1NT (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

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#1 User is online   awm 

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Posted 2008-March-20, 02:23

You open 1♦ in third seat and partner responds 1♠. 2/1, 15-17 NTs.

Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2008-March-20, 02:29

2c

I thought wtp but i guess not.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 02:40

All options look pretty ew to me - 2D rebid seems the smallest lie.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 04:27

2D. Would not be fussed if pd bid 1NT. Would be fussed if pd bid 2C.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 04:54

mike777, on Mar 20 2008, 03:29 AM, said:

2c

I thought wtp but i guess not.

Declareing a 2C bid as wtp,
is a bit surprings.

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Posted 2008-March-20, 04:56

Hi,

2H.

It is either 2D or 2H, I would go
with 2H, but ...

Even the forum software was against
2H, I needed to hit the Add button 3x,
before I was able to write my opinion.

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Posted 2008-March-20, 05:08

I like 2♥. Alternative: 2♦ if I'm in a pessimistic mood. Which maybe I should because that singleton spade ain't looking good.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 05:17

2H? Making a reverse on a 15 count without a known fit? The aces and kings are nice but it seems too much of an overbid imo.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 05:32

You're just too conservative :ph34r:
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Posted 2008-March-20, 05:35

1NT seems normal to me.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 05:37

I don't hate 1N or 2♦ too much and would probably go for 1N.

2♥ is crazy. 2♣ is masterminding for the hell of it.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 07:16

2♦. I might rebid 1NT with a non-regular. (1NT show 5332 18-19 with my regulars.)
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Posted 2008-March-20, 07:19

It probably won't surprise anyone to hear that I would have opened 1NT on the previous round
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Posted 2008-March-20, 08:05

My rebid would be 2D but I would have opened 1NT.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 08:15

2♦ wtp.

1NT (as either an opening or rebid) is a distortion which is fine if it's your partnership's style, but it is not standard. 2♣ likewise. In my opinion, this hand does not warrant upgrading to 2♥ (or 3♦) because your singleton is in partner's suit.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 09:53

I think 2♣ > 2♦ > open 1NT >>> 2♥ > rebid 1NT.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 10:25

awm, on Mar 20 2008, 03:23 AM, said:

You open 1♦ in third seat and partner responds 1♠. 2/1, 15-17 NTs.

North,Both,IMP,
♠6 ♥KQ86 ♦AQT64 ♣A83

To a certain extent, this is another area where you should do what partner and you have agreed to do above and beyond all else.

W/o discussion in a pickup playing SAYC or normal 2/1 GF, either
1D-1S;1N (you certainly have all the side suits stopped) or
1D-1S;2D (AQTxx is a better than average 5 card suit)
seems fine to me

1D-1S;2C is Masterminding. If 2C! is artificial, you could make a good case for it.

1D-1S;2H is over bidding your hand.
Reverses should promise hands that have 3 level safety opposite a minimum.
15+6= 21 w/o a fit does not fit the requirement.
Pard is unlimited and could easily put you in a hopeless contract.

Those playing Weak NT's have 2 choices.
rebid the D's
play 1D-1M;2C! as artificial.

Kaplan Sheinwald had both options 40+ years ago.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 10:45

In the olden days, worried about a rebid, we would have opened south a "prepared" 1♥ and rebid 2♦ and be fairly happy...sigh.... here i rebid an unhappy 1NT or unhappy 2♣
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Posted 2008-March-20, 10:53

inquiry, on Mar 20 2008, 11:45 AM, said:

In the olden days, worried about a rebid, we would have opened south a "prepared" 1♥ and rebid 2♦ and be fairly happy...sigh.... here i rebid an unhappy 1NT or unhappy 2♣

...and playing 4cM and Strong NT, I might still open a 1H and rebid (an unhappy)2D.

It works for the Acol folks...
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Posted 2008-March-20, 11:20

jdonn, on Mar 20 2008, 07:53 AM, said:

I think 2♣ > 2♦ > open 1NT >>> 2♥ > rebid 1NT.

I'm generally in agreement here, except I would have ranked the rebid 1NT higher.

Imagine we held x KJxx AQTxx Axx, it seems to me this would now have more support for a 1NT rebid and in particular if we held x KJxx AQTx Axxx then I think a 1NT rebid would be normal. The major advantage being that we will be less likely to play in a 5-1 spade fit if we rebid 1NT rather than open 1NT.

So for me: 2♣ > 2♦ > rebid 1NT > open 1NT >> 2♥.
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