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What should you do now? Shall you convert?

#1 User is offline   twcho 

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Posted 2008-March-19, 04:34

Auction:
3♠ - X - pass - 4♦
pass - 4♥ - pass - ?

What should you do now? Your hand: xxx x KTxxx QTxx

Shall you pass or try 5♣?
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Posted 2008-March-19, 04:36

5♣. If pard has been reading the same books I read, he should have like hearts and clubs.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 05:05

Agree with Nuno, p is showing a flexible hand, not a one-suiter too strong for a 4♥ overcall. It is something to discuss with p, though. Since obviously it has merits to be able to show a strong one-suit also.

Thinking about, maybe if we play non-leaping Michaels, some alternative allocation of the bids would be better. For example 4♣ showing a one-suiter in hearts and 4♥ showing 5-5 hearts and clubs.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 11:07

helene_t, on Mar 20 2008, 12:05 AM, said:

Agree with Nuno, p is showing a flexible hand, not a one-suiter too strong for a 4♥ overcall. It is something to discuss with p, though. Since obviously it has merits to be able to show a strong one-suit also.

Thinking about, maybe if we play non-leaping Michaels, some alternative allocation of the bids would be better. For example 4♣ showing a one-suiter in hearts and 4♥ showing 5-5 hearts and clubs.

You will have a problem then too.

The problem is that whatever meaning you ascribe to 4♥ natural or two-suited like you suggest when you have a hand that is too strong for this action you need to do something else presumably double.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 12:05

5♣, partner's hand is flexible.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 12:19

5♣ for sure. Even if partner holds a strong one-suiter, it needs to be strong enough that your minor high cards are sufficient to make 5♥. Otherwise, he should simply have overcalled 4♥.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 12:27

Should I be worried that partner would read 5♣ as a cue in support of hearts, or would all slam-interest hands start 4♠?
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Posted 2008-March-19, 12:58

CSGibson, on Mar 19 2008, 01:27 PM, said:

Should I be worried that partner would read 5♣ as a cue in support of hearts, or would all slam-interest hands start 4♠?

Slam interest hands can choose between 4♠, 4NT, and 5♥. Not that it's about to happen when you could only bid 4♦.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 13:37

jdonn, on Mar 19 2008, 01:05 PM, said:

5♣, partner's hand is flexible.

Ditto.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 17:25

Depends on who you're playing with. I would convert to 5C, but I wouldnt be surprised if partner simply had a hand too good for a simple 4H overcall.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 18:48

han, on Mar 20 2008, 02:37 AM, said:

jdonn, on Mar 19 2008, 01:05 PM, said:

5♣, partner's hand is flexible.

Ditto.

Agree, pd will have Cs for this auction.
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Posted 2008-March-20, 04:52

Pass.

Obviously, this depends on the books you have read
and the agreements you have made.

For me this seq. would show a hand too strong to
overcall 4H direct.

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Marlowe
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