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You are on lead against 6D with the following hand:
J10xx
Qxx
xx
KJxx
The auction was
1D - 1S
2NT - 6D
What would you lead?
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slam lead
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Posted 2008-March-18, 19:51
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 19:57
Small club I think.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 20:07
Often I would just lead a club with this hand, but with the 2NT bid to our right, there must be a fair chance of AQ there.
Diamond is passive, and I don't like to make a passive lead on this auction.
Heart is possible - combines some aggression without perhaps as much danger. Maybe, instead of leading a heart to partner's King and declarer's Ace, followed by being thrown in with the ♥Q to lead into the club tenace, we could make the Zia lead of the ♥Q.
I would not lead a spade.
In real life I would not be brave enough to lead the ♥Q, even though it may well be best, and would probably lead a low club.
Diamond is passive, and I don't like to make a passive lead on this auction.
Heart is possible - combines some aggression without perhaps as much danger. Maybe, instead of leading a heart to partner's King and declarer's Ace, followed by being thrown in with the ♥Q to lead into the club tenace, we could make the Zia lead of the ♥Q.
I would not lead a spade.
In real life I would not be brave enough to lead the ♥Q, even though it may well be best, and would probably lead a low club.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 20:10
Passive for me. Diamond.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 20:46
Diamond.
If I did lead a club, I would lead the CJ. If partner's only card is the CQ, I'd better not remove his club guard, since I will probably be forced to keep spades in the endgame.
If I did lead a club, I would lead the CJ. If partner's only card is the CQ, I'd better not remove his club guard, since I will probably be forced to keep spades in the endgame.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 21:25
I am a big fan of attacking leads against a small slam but I lead a diamond here.
Unless dummy has five spades they don't have a side source of tricks. And we have a spade stopper so declarer is unlikely to have even four spade tricks. This means that passive rates to give us a chance of getting all of our tricks here.
Five spades is somewhere in the realm unlikely to impossible since responder might have made some sort of attempt to find a 5=3 spade fit.
Unless dummy has five spades they don't have a side source of tricks. And we have a spade stopper so declarer is unlikely to have even four spade tricks. This means that passive rates to give us a chance of getting all of our tricks here.
Five spades is somewhere in the realm unlikely to impossible since responder might have made some sort of attempt to find a 5=3 spade fit.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 22:08
Question 2 is what Fantoni lead.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 23:04
han, on Mar 18 2008, 10:08 PM, said:
Question 2 is what Fantoni lead.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 23:12
Looks like the honors are positioned well over declarer's and spades arent splitting - why present declarer with a contract destiny had foreordained for him to lose. A safe diamond looks best-it is least likely they have a diamond loser/guess.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 03:50
With spades stopped, I see no need to get busy.
A diamond.
A diamond.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 04:38
Looking at this holding and the auction, I'd reject the club lead and play a diamond.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 07:21
♥Q, I want to attack.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 08:58
If I choose a club, its a high club. I have too much to look after in the endgame if I don't.
I think I have enough junk that I think I can afford to go passive.
I think I have enough junk that I think I can afford to go passive.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 09:23
trump lead for me as well... the other leads are too dangerous and we don't know enough about the hand to be adventuresome.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 10:27
I just don't think much of our ♠ stop. it ould easily be AKQxx opp xx and he gets 1 discard immediately, and a second when he ruffs a ♠. I thought about the ♥Q as well. I guess that's what Fantoni led?
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Posted 2008-March-19, 11:32
Nobody guessed Fantoni's lead, it was a low club. I heard the story yesterday, the full hand was something like this:
Club lead to the queen, followed by two rounds of trumps and hearts and clubs were eliminated. Low spade from dummy and east played low. Should declarer guess it?
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Club lead to the queen, followed by two rounds of trumps and hearts and clubs were eliminated. Low spade from dummy and east played low. Should declarer guess it?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 11:45
Of course he should. Since LHO led from his ♣K, he probably doesn't have the spade king otherwise he wouldn't be attacking. If that isn't convincing, you can always say you're playing for split kings.. lol.
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Posted 2008-March-19, 12:53
han, on Mar 19 2008, 06:32 PM, said:
Club lead to the queen, followed by two rounds of trumps and hearts and clubs were eliminated. Low spade from dummy and east played low. Should declarer guess it?
Not at this stage. If he was going to play East for SK, he should have played ace and another, catering for West having Kx.
It does seem odd to play West for KJ or K10 or spades in addition to CK and HQ. I'd have thought that a trump would be a standout on that, given that North and South are both likely to be fairly balanced.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-March-19, 13:11
If you put the 9 now, you win when LHO has the king or RHO JT and forgot to split...
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