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Posted 2008-March-16, 17:32

Scoring: IMP

1♠-1NT
2♦-2♠
- - -
1NT is not forcing, but can include hands with 3 card ♠ and 4 to 6 HCP. So partner has:
- 3 card ♠ and 4 to 6 HCP
OR
- 6 to 9 HCP and simple preference for ♠
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Posted 2008-March-16, 17:43

Pass
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Posted 2008-March-16, 18:06

4.5 adjusted LTC suggests an invite, but LTC is not really adequate if we don't have a fit, and besides p will not be able to make an informed decision because he will assume we have values in diamonds.

So pass.
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Posted 2008-March-16, 18:33

Pass. I might actually make 2♠ after this auction for once in my life.
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Posted 2008-March-17, 00:11

I also pass. This is different from the hand that Phil posted some weeks ago because there we were more likely to have a heart fit and our side suit was much better.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-17, 00:15

I like bidding, so I'm going with 3H :P
As we're NV, I'm also content with pass as well.
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Posted 2008-March-17, 03:19

han, on Mar 17 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

I also pass. This is different from the hand that Phil posted some weeks ago because there we were more likely to have a heart fit and our side suit was much better.

And our second suit was a major so game is more likely in the second denomination. (Assuming I am thinking of the same hand.)

Maybe this is what you meant - i am just spelling it out clearly.
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Posted 2008-March-17, 11:17

Yes, that was what I meant with "we are more likely to have a heart fit", thanks for clarifying. :)
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-17, 16:37

if partner has 9hcp and 2 spades I don't really want to be in game.

if partner has 6hcp and 3 spades where will his values be (clubs) and what chances will game have after a trump lead (none) ?

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Posted 2008-March-17, 17:22

I passed and asked a good player afterwards. He said I should have bid 3♦ because it allows you to possibly find a better ♦ fit or a game in ♠...Probably he has influenced by knowing all 4 hands:
Scoring: IMP

RHO had ♠KJx.
LHO did lead a ♣, ruffed by me. ♥A and K and ♥ ruff.
I let ♠9 run and after dawing trumps played ♦ to the K.
...2♠+4
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Posted 2008-March-18, 01:23

1. Partner is maximum
2. He has (nearly) no useless values in clubs
3. He has a heart doubleton and great values in Diamonds.
4. Trumps split 3-2 with both finesses working.

Okay, now you don't aim for a slam and for the game you need a little less. But however you see it, you need at leawst two tricks from partner. So KQx of Diamonds and out is enough, but AkQ in club is useless if he has no entry.

I think it was no crime to miss this game, but if I have to blame someone then your partner. It is true that he has just 6HCP and 3 card support. But he has a very useful shortness, 5 of his 6 points are very nice, so he was at least on the border to a direct 2 Spade bid.
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Posted 2008-March-18, 06:14

kgr, on Mar 17 2008, 06:22 PM, said:

I passed and asked a good player afterwards. He said I should have bid 3♦ because it allows you to possibly find a better ♦ fit or a game in ♠...Probably he has influenced by knowing all 4 hands:
South,None,IMP,

♠986 ♥xx ♦KQx ♣Jxxxx
♠AQT7x ♥AKx ♦JTxxx

RHO had ♠KJx.
LHO did lead a ♣, ruffed by me. ♥A and K and ♥ ruff.
I let ♠9 run and after dawing trumps played ♦ to the K.
...2♠+4

Unless you are playing Constructive Raises, the standard response with
xxx, xx, KQx, Jxxxx to 1S-??
is ...2S.

Not 1N.

Then Opener can make whatever Game Try System allows for here.

I agree with others that this is not a board where I would expect to find game or would feel bad if We did not.
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