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IMP. They vul.
♠10xx
♥98xx
♦Qxx
♣9xx
pass 3♥ 3NT ??
a ) What do you bid?
b ) What would you bid if LHO wasn't a passed hand?
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Flat superfit-hand After partners 3H prempt
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Posted 2008-March-09, 00:34
Pass both times. We already preempted; I don't see any reason to offer up 800 or more.
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Posted 2008-March-09, 01:13
Bidding is nuts!
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-March-09, 03:43
Passing is clear to me on both scenarios.
I'm not saving with such a balanced hand - it's handing them 800 when they haven't got a slam and not very preemptive (yeah, LHO can't bid 4m, I know).
I'm not saving with such a balanced hand - it's handing them 800 when they haven't got a slam and not very preemptive (yeah, LHO can't bid 4m, I know).
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Harald
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Posted 2008-March-09, 05:21
The mere fact of a 4 card support for a preempt qualifies as a super-fit? Seems the term is lacking something then.
Btw, I'm passing with the rest and with ease.
Btw, I'm passing with the rest and with ease.
I constantly try and "Esc-wq!" to finish and post webforum replies.
Aaron
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Posted 2008-March-09, 14:45
I think its a reasonable strategy if you decide never to make a call (unless forced) with an 11 loser hand.
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Posted 2008-March-09, 14:55
A clear pass.
It is a beginner's error (and a common one) to overbid with length when partner preempts. Suport is great to have, but only when it either negates trump losers, which it won't here after the 3N call, or when it allows declarer to ruff losers in dummy. Maybe, just maybe, opener is 7-4, and we get to score 1 trick. I wouldn't hold my breath
Picture partner with a perfect hand: KQJ109xx and some 321 outside. We can't contribute a single trick to him.. not one. So we lose 7 tricks, and we can predict this before we bid. (Ok, maybe our Q will score a trick, but that is against the odds).
It is a beginner's error (and a common one) to overbid with length when partner preempts. Suport is great to have, but only when it either negates trump losers, which it won't here after the 3N call, or when it allows declarer to ruff losers in dummy. Maybe, just maybe, opener is 7-4, and we get to score 1 trick. I wouldn't hold my breath
Picture partner with a perfect hand: KQJ109xx and some 321 outside. We can't contribute a single trick to him.. not one. So we lose 7 tricks, and we can predict this before we bid. (Ok, maybe our Q will score a trick, but that is against the odds).
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Posted 2008-March-09, 20:12
a) definitely pass, who says they'll go slamming? Since 3NT contains a wide range of hands, let them figure it out themselves.
Pass again. Don't want to be going for -800. They may not even know what their system is over the 3NT.
Pass again. Don't want to be going for -800. They may not even know what their system is over the 3NT.
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Posted 2008-March-10, 06:22
Poky, on Mar 9 2008, 01:32 AM, said:
IMP. They vul.
♠10xx
♥98xx
♦Qxx
♣9xx
pass 3♥ 3NT ??
a ) What do you bid?
b ) What would you bid if LHO wasn't a passed hand?
♠10xx
♥98xx
♦Qxx
♣9xx
pass 3♥ 3NT ??
a ) What do you bid?
b ) What would you bid if LHO wasn't a passed hand?
Bidding is definitely nuts.
If you bid 4♥ and it turns out to be good save I suggest heading for the casino.
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