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Maybe the best hand at the table

Poll: But what do you bid? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

But what do you bid?

  1. Pass (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  2. Dbl (3 votes [13.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  3. 4H (19 votes [82.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.61%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2008-March-03, 07:58

Scoring: IMP


1♠ 2♦ 3♠* to you

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Bonus question: Unless you pass, the auction continues 4♠ Pass Pass, do you do anything now?
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Posted 2008-March-03, 08:04

4♥ then double, I expect my partner to have better hand than me, at least offensively (on average, of course he can have something bad).
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Posted 2008-March-03, 08:14

Agree with gonzalo
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Posted 2008-March-03, 08:23

4H first seems clear, we may make or we may goad them into 4S (which is almost always), then I would X them. Maybe I can't take a joke but my hand is too good not to X 4S after inducing it.
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Posted 2008-March-03, 08:38

X looks more flexible then 4H. However the problem i see with X is that over partner 4C if you bid 4H doest is suggest H+C or H+D or H + Nt ?

Also im not convinced a X setup forcing pass (my feeling is that it should because the X is basically forcing the partnership to a vulnerable game that cannot be a sacrifice)
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Posted 2008-March-03, 08:53

I think 4♥ is a much better call than double
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Posted 2008-March-03, 09:06

First, the fact that the opponents were able to make 4♠ with only nine trumps, at most the A of diamonds, at most the QJ of hearts, and at most the Q of clubs is mind-boggling. The layout must have been rather remarkable. I wonder if making 4♠X was really legitimate, but I'll accept that.

As to the overcall. My preference is 3♦. I'm sure many have styles where they would overcall 2♦ or pass.
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Posted 2008-March-03, 09:33

4♥ then Dbl
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Posted 2008-March-03, 09:57

4♥, then double.

Partner may not have much for 2♦ but this is an easy problem with my controls. I'll save the grey cells for when my hand is ♠xx ♥KQJ10xx ♦x ♣KJxx.

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Posted 2008-March-03, 10:04

4♥ game try.

I double 4♠ obviously.

Obviously this is the component hand to the 2263 10 count.
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Posted 2008-March-03, 10:07

OK, 4S made why else post this hand.
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Posted 2008-March-03, 10:12

benlessard, on Mar 3 2008, 08:38 AM, said:

X looks more flexible then 4H. However the problem i see with X is that over partner 4C if you bid 4H doest is suggest H+C or H+D or H + Nt ?

Also im not convinced a X setup forcing pass (my feeling is that it should because the X is basically forcing the partnership to a vulnerable game that cannot be a sacrifice)

The bigger problem is that X-then-4♥ suggest at most 5 hearts.
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Posted 2008-March-03, 11:03

4♥, then X.
I don't consider this much of a problem, both calls look obvious to me.
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Posted 2008-March-03, 12:07

cherdano, on Mar 3 2008, 05:12 PM, said:

The bigger problem is that X-then-4♥ suggest at most 5 hearts.

Exactly five, I would say.
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Posted 2008-March-03, 12:40

and at least 2 diamonds....
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Posted 2008-March-03, 18:24

Fluffy, on Mar 3 2008, 07:40 PM, said:

and at least 2 diamonds....

Really? What would you do with J8 AK954 8 AQ543 ?
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Posted 2008-March-03, 19:56

right B)

Still I think that double then 4♥ suggests at least 2♦ IMO.
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