[gwnn]

you pass 1st seat R/W mps with a nondescript 2-4-3-4 4 count.

p-1♣-2♣-X
2♥-p-p-X
p-p-3♦-p
p-X-end

+670. pard had 7 good diamonds and thought he'd do something funny. opps say hey, you're cheating, you fielded a psyche, why didn't you correct back to 3♥.

[TylerE]

Since pard passed 2♥, I think the 3♦ bid wasn't "fielded". It's obvious partner decided to do something funny.

[awm]

It seems that once 2♥X has already been passed for penalty, it would be silly to correct 3♦ to 3♥ and go for a big number.

The auction itself makes it clear that something funny has occurred -- partner is pulling 2♥X into a suit that he's not "supposed" to have. And you even hold more diamonds than hearts. Seems clear to pass 3♦.

It would be different if 3♦ were bid in a "live" auction such as:

P - 1♣ - 2♣ - P
2♥ - X - 3♦

Here there is a logical interpretation of 3♦ as some kind of game try on a strong hand, whereas in the given auction partner already passed 2♥, and opponents already left the double of 2♥ in.

[kfay]

After the round I tell partner never to psyche like this again because there are 1 billion + 1 ways it could blow up in his face.

[gwnn]

Sorry, corrected now, 4 hearts and 3 diamonds.

[mr1303]

IN EBU land, I would rule this as green (traffic light system).

Partner could have played in 2H doubled. He chose not to do so. Why would he pull to 3D if he had anything like both majors?

[Apollo81]

Partner didn't want to play 2♥x, why should I bid 3♥?

[skjaeran]

No fielding for sure.

Would anyone around the table (or elsewhere) expect much of a heart suit with a player pulling this stunt? Seems improbable to me.

After having made a free bid on 4 hcp with a 4-card suit there can be no reason at all to repeat the suit after partner pulled 2♥x. How naive are we supposed to be?

[kenrexford]

I think that there is 100% fielding. However, I think there is a massive difference between "filding" based upon partnership understanding and "fielding" because you are not a complete dolt. You know 100% that partner's 3♦ call is (a.) exposing his own psychic call at the point where he legally can expose the psychic, or (b.) exposing that he grabbed the wrong card or misclicked, or (c.) sorted his hand wrong, or (d.) something else justifying a clear pass on your part.

Bidding 3♥ would be (a.) fileding the psychic, because you cannot possibly think otherwise, but (b.) bidding 3♥ because you are either rude to partner and punishing him or are a dolt and think you have to bid 3♥ or are a complete dolt and are genuinely confused.

[Halo]

Partner has a redouble card in the box. There is no conceivable case for fielding.

[Cascade]

We haven't been invited this party and I hate to gate crash.

[pclayton]

This is hardly a risk-free psyche. pard could have bounced in a major and we'd have to explain why we were pulling to the 5 level.

The actual auction is obvious. Pard might be looking for rhythm double on the way to 3♥ or something else. The 2♥ bidder is out of the picture.

[han]

I've seen Justin perpetrate the Michaels psyche with 8 spades against me a couple of times. The first time it hurt a lot, I think we knew what was happening the second time.

7 diamonds only seems quite risky but it can certainly be very effective when it works. Virtually impossible to get to a major suit contract.

[han]

pclayton, on Feb 28 2008, 04:57 PM, said:

Pard might be looking for rhythm double on the way to 3♥ or something else.

I hope something else Phil, balancing seat!

[inquiry]

You bid 2♥, partner passed... then they doubled... and partner ran to 3♦'s. And the opponents are complaining. Are you kidding me? Let's see what can 3♦ be...

1. Game try in ♥s? Nope, he passed 2♥ to play and 2♥ was doubled, so he could score more for passing 2♥ anyway.
2. Lead directing going back to hearts? Seriously?
3. A psychic 2♣ bid with long, probably very long, ♦'s. DING DING we have a winner.

But even if it is not 3... you have done your responsibility. 3♦ is a demand pass as far as I can tell. Did you figure out now the psyche? Sure. Everyone should have. You are not forced to keep pulling diaamonds to hearts until you reach 7♥ here. This complaint is just plain silly.

[blackshoe]

gwnn, on Feb 28 2008, 02:50 PM, said:

opps say hey, you're cheating, you fielded a psyche, why didn't you correct back to 3♥.

If they actually said "you're cheating", they should be required to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. They can't, of course. So they should be drawn, quartered, and hanged by the neck.

[jillybean]

blackshoe, on Feb 28 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

gwnn, on Feb 28 2008, 02:50 PM, said:

opps say hey, you're cheating, you fielded a psyche, why didn't you correct back to 3♥.

If they actually said "you're cheating", they should be required to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. They can't, of course. So they should be drawn, quartered, and hanged by the neck.

They should be but they wont be - they'll be paying customers.

[PassedOut]

I tried that once and partner went back to hearts twice after I pulled the double twice. Not a success.

[skjaeran]

PassedOut, on Feb 29 2008, 07:30 PM, said:

I tried that once and partner went back to hearts twice after I pulled the double twice. Not a success.

Then HE should be drawn, quartered, and hanged by the neck.

[TimG]

jillybean2, on Feb 29 2008, 01:23 AM, said:

blackshoe, on Feb 28 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

gwnn, on Feb 28 2008, 02:50 PM, said:

opps say hey, you're cheating, you fielded a psyche, why didn't you correct back to 3♥.

If they actually said "you're cheating", they should be required to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. They can't, of course. So they should be drawn, quartered, and hanged by the neck.

They should be but they wont be - they'll be paying customers.

In ACBL events, I've twice had opponents make an accusation of unethical behavior (once they said "cheat", once they did not) as a result of a psyche. In both cases the director made it clear to the opponents that their actions were inappropriate (in the case where "cheat" was used, the director demanded an apology be made). Not quite drawn and quartered, but I feel that both times the director handled the situation in an appropriate manner, never making my partnership defend ourselves or otherwise reprimanding us, while coming down quite hard on the players that made the accusation.

One of the situations was similar to the one that initiated this thread. My partner made a spade overcall of a strong club opening and later ran to clubs. I did not correct to spades despite holding more spades than clubs -- I don't remember exactly how many more spades, nor when the doubling and running started, but it was similar.

In the other situation, I opened 2NT (strong) with 8 solid diamonds and out. My partner used Stayman and signed off in 3N when I denied a 4-card major. They led a low card from a major (my partner had Kxxx in both majors and no other high cards), RHO won and cleared the suit with me discarding, which raised a couple eyebrows. Then I ran diamonds and the excitement started.