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Majority Psyche?

Poll: Majority Psyche? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

Majority Psyche?

  1. 3C/3D (8 votes [27.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  2. 4C/4D (3 votes [10.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.34%

  3. 5C/5D (5 votes [17.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.24%

  4. Some Psychic Call (13 votes [44.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.83%

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Posted 2008-February-25, 05:09

Matchpoints, Favorable

♠9 ♥void ♦QJT872 ♣QJ7632

Third seat, P-(P)-?

This is similar to an MSC problem from two (?) months ago.

If you psyche, feel free to include which psyche you like best: 1NT, 2NT, 3♠, 3♥, etc. As in most places, no strong artificial psyches allowed.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 05:25

hum.. either 4♦ + 5♣ or a direct 5♦ opener.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 05:51

2NT showing minors fall into category - but not in the poll.
If not an option - pass. I have no intention of bewildering partner in first seat.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 05:52

firmit, on Feb 25 2008, 04:51 AM, said:

2NT showing minors fall into category - but not in the poll.
If not an option - pass. I have no intention of bewildering partner in first seat.

I apologize. I forgot to include that your choice is in third seat. I wouldn't expect anyone to psyche in first or second (or at least seriously believe it to be a +EV action).
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Posted 2008-February-25, 05:55

rogerclee, on Feb 25 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

firmit, on Feb 25 2008, 04:51 AM, said:

2NT showing minors fall into category - but not in the poll.
If not an option - pass. I have no intention of bewildering partner in first seat.

I apologize. I forgot to include that your choice is in third seat. I wouldn't expect anyone to psyche in first or second.

Of course - I should've known ;)

1♦ then - I think that falls into the psyche groups!
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Posted 2008-February-25, 05:56

I open a strong 2NT I guess if I don't have any systemic option like 4NT.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 05:59

1♦.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2008-February-25, 06:16

In descending order:

4 NT (if minors)
2 NT (if minors)
1 Diamond if both bids are not avaiable (hey I have a 5 loser hand, ;) )
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Posted 2008-February-25, 07:01

A natural 2N is the way to go if you want to psyche with this one imo. It would be textbook if you had 6-6 in hearts and clubs, but hey nothings perfect.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 07:04

2NT wouldnt occur to me. So you take 3N out to 4m when it gets doubled, thereby exposing the psyche?
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helene_t, on Feb 25 2008, 08:04 AM, said:

2NT wouldnt occur to me. So you take 3N out to 4m when it gets doubled, thereby exposing the psyche?

Hehe, it's not a bid I'd ever actually make anymore, but I remember it used to be successful for me. Yes, run if doubled, don't run if not doubled, etc. It's tough for LHO to bid even if he has like a 17 count (yes I know on the forums everyone would figure out what was happening but in real life you don't think people are psyching 2N and it's more likely they have 19 opp 4 or something). And even if LHO is able to get in somehow how do they find fits etc? Most people have no system over 2N.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 07:31

I think I'd use the "to play" 3NT convention here. It will render everyone totally defenseless.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 10:31

wow ; I have good ears , I pass
other than no opener I have no firm idea of what pt has , so wait and see !
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Posted 2008-February-25, 10:57

I would open 4NT for the minors, I didn't know that this was not part of BWS.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 13:31

han, on Feb 25 2008, 11:57 AM, said:

I would open 4NT for the minors, I didn't know that this was not part of BWS.

I still like to play it as regular blackwood.

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Posted 2008-February-25, 13:35

3♦. Not done yet, either :)

I used to psyche a lot, but I found that the better my game, and the better my partner, the less use I had for psyches (but that may simply be because I got too old)
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Posted 2008-February-25, 16:36

We have a 4NT opening for this hand - Both minors at least 5=6.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 17:11

mikeh, on Feb 26 2008, 08:35 AM, said:

3♦. Not done yet, either :)

I used to psyche a lot, but I found that the better my game, and the better my partner, the less use I had for psyches (but that may simply be because I got too old)

You need to have a stage in life where you psyche at least a little bit.

Psyching is one of those things that it is much better to have a reputation for than actually doing it.

I have noticed that usually a good preempt is at least as good as a psyche.

I did have a similar hand to the one in this thread but only 6-5 in the minors with a pair of singleton major 4s. I opened 2♠ (spades and a minor - so only a semi-psyche) against a local grandmaster (but not a great player). She doubled and my partner raised to 3♠. RHO now bid 4♥ which became the final contract. I lead ♠ 4 to partner's ace and seeing the six spades in dummy (what a takeout double) partner picked to return a spade for me to ruff. I think partner had a couple of trump tricks to defeat the contract. These people then think i am the villian for my psyche but think nothing of making a takeout double with some 6=3=2=2 shape or similar.
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Posted 2008-February-25, 18:18

Why not 3N gambling?

It's not going to hold, so I can safely bid 4N/5N (maybe) when it gets back to me, and partner will get the idea I think (is there something illegal about this re: psyches that I'm not clear on?). And if partner has a hand where he thinks he can determine my minor and bid 5m, that's fine too. In the meantime I've given opps the most trouble I can possibly give them, and at the same time I've probably conveyed my hand quite well.

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Posted 2008-February-26, 11:43

4NT...
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