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I lead low heart and we allowed opps to make what could I have done better

#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2008-February-17, 12:22


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     -     Pass  1
 Pass  1    Pass  1
 Pass  3    Pass  3NT
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

H2 H8 HQ HA
C5 C2 CK C3
CT D7 CA C7
C8 CQ C4 D5
DT D2 DK D9
H5 HJ H4 HT
DQ D3 D4 D8
S4 S2 SA S7
DA H6 S5 S3
DJ H7 S9 S6
D6 HK ST H3
C6 S8

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Posted 2008-February-17, 12:32

Youi switched because p seemed to be echoing in , right? Not sure why p played in that order but it seems impossible that he could afford to discard two diamonds if he really wanted that suit.
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Posted 2008-February-17, 12:44

You can locate 10+ cards (south 3+, you 3, north 4+) and 8 this means that your partner can't have much black cards. So he must have some red ones.
Your partner had the opportunity to make a bid over 1, but he chose to be silent. So his shape or strength does not allow a 1 bid. If he really wanted a lead, his hand would have often been suitable for a 1 bid.
It is south who chose to bid 3NT and he should be pretty sure to stop the unbid suit.
So leading the carries the risk of playing the finesse for south.
But what could you lead?
and seem to be bad choices too, and your hand definitely does not call for a lead.
Seems that the lead is still the best choice to make.
You just have to follow up after you win the Q.
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Posted 2008-February-17, 12:50

You just have to follow up ♥ after you win the ♣Q.

My pard said I made a bad lead, I should lead a spade then he can switch to hearts. I thought maybe I could lead the 4 hearts that way he would not assume I had the J hearts which is what his problem is

also he signalled for diamonds 0/e
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Posted 2008-February-17, 13:04

sceptic, on Feb 17 2008, 01:50 PM, said:

also he signalled for diamonds 0/e

He signalled count on the first discard?

I've never seen that before.
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Posted 2008-February-17, 15:19

As long as the 2 wasn't from J1092 (impossible) or from Jxx (rare), there is no problem. As long as the simple assumption is made that partner has led from a 4-card heart suit, there is no valid reason not to plunk down the K - when the J falls from declarer any necessary unblock becomes routine. If partner happened to lead from 10942, it is automatic to play the 10 or 9 when declarer follows with the J.

Blame falls squarely on East.

Note also that East, seeing you win the club Q, knows that hearts are the winning play for 4 more tricks and a guaranteed defeat and can be heroic and simply discard the diamond King on the club Queen. This play should be enough to get you to cash the heart J if you have led from Jxx or else continue hearts if you led from xxxx. It does however, look foolish if you have led from xxx of hearts.
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Posted 2008-February-17, 15:25

You make a killing lead and then partner blames you? That's the newest, most unbelievable cover-up attempt in the history of partnership defense.
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Posted 2008-February-17, 15:37

gwnn, on Feb 17 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

You make a killing lead and then partner blames you? That's the newest, most unbelievable cover-up attempt in the history of partnership defense.

Obviously, they were playing blame transfers. Hearts mean spades were right and partner is to blame.
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Posted 2008-February-17, 16:33

I don't get this - leading the 5 back from east is totally nuts IMO.

Blame east 200%.
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Posted 2008-February-17, 16:53

skaeran, on Feb 17 2008, 05:33 PM, said:

I don't get this - leading the 5 back from east is totally nuts IMO.

Blame east 200%.

heheh


not only is leading small back wrong... even led the wrong spot :)
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Posted 2008-February-18, 03:47

Wayne, do you normally lead smallest from xxxx?
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