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1SX Redux Run this time?

Poll: Playing 4 card majors do you run? (17 member(s) have cast votes)

Playing 4 card majors do you run?

  1. Redouble (10 votes [58.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.82%

  2. Pass (5 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  3. 1NT (2 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2008-February-14, 04:16

Scoring: IMP

P-1♠-P-P
X-P-P-?
Playing 4 card majors, English style, partner opens 1♠ in second seat, vulnerable vs not.
What do you do now?
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 04:59

Pretty sick. I redouble, since I am semi-flexible about running to hearts. I'd rather not play a 4-2 fit, and in this situation, I would say that this is very likely to be the case.

What NT range does this "English style" employ?
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Posted 2008-February-14, 05:06

Let's just believe opps' (first) penalty double. XX and pass throughout.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 06:33

rogerclee, on Feb 14 2008, 05:59 AM, said:

What NT range does this "English style" employ?
Good question :P
I think it is 14-16, but am not sure.
I guess we can assume 14-16 while I try to find out.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 06:47

I was asked but I'm not sure, the pair concerned are not a regular partnership so I can't tell you what they usually play. In their usual partnerships one plays 14-16 and the other 12-14; if I had to guess I would say the 12-14 player is more likely to triumph in any system discussion.

Definitely 4-card majors, though, as already disclosed, and will often open the major with two 4-card suits.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 07:12

Pard has 5 spades or 4 and a 15-17 hand. Would prefer to play 1NT/2m in the 2nd case, but that means trouble if he's got 5 spades and a min.

Pass.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 07:51

I will XX in a 4 card major system.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 11:52

Here I think it's pretty clear to redouble.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 20:11

gwnn, on Feb 14 2008, 06:06 AM, said:

Let's just believe opps' (first) penalty double. XX and pass throughout.

this and a prayer
I constantly try and "Esc-wq!" to finish and post webforum replies.

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Posted 2008-February-15, 04:11

This hand was from the Yeh brothers tournament.

Scoring: IMP


At the table, South agreed with the majority and redoubled, but today the cards were not so kind. 4 rounds of bidding later, NS finished in 2♦X going for 800.

http://web04.bridgebase.com/vug/0_8_2008%2...alify%20R10.lin

Thanks to those who responded, and thanks to Frances for answering the system question.
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Posted 2008-February-15, 04:18

another argument for opening weak NT's on all 5332's!

1NT-2♠-... :P
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Posted 2008-February-15, 04:23

gwnn, on Feb 15 2008, 03:18 AM, said:

another argument for opening weak NT's on all 5332's!

1NT-2♠-... :P

Haha. At these colors, I think E has an obvious pass over 1NT (12-14). But even I'm not going for 800 in 1NT undoubled :).
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Posted 2008-February-15, 04:24

doh missed the colors
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Posted 2008-February-15, 04:33

Have I misunderstood, or have two people just suggested that at some vulnerabilities one should overcall 2S over 1NT on Q7543 AQ3 Q3 KJ5 ?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-February-15, 04:43

gnasher, on Feb 15 2008, 03:33 AM, said:

Have I misunderstood, or have two people just suggested that at some vulnerabilities one should overcall 2S over 1NT on Q7543 AQ3 Q3 KJ5 ?

I would not overcall 2♠ at any colors. Sorry if this wasn't clear; I meant that at these colors, it is obvious, not just obvious :P.
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Posted 2008-February-15, 06:38

ok that was a stupid comment. but add a few spots here and there to east's spades (making his hand a pass over 1♠-x-p) and then my argument becomes (at least somewhat) valid
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