Jump Raise?
#1
Posted 2008-February-05, 03:32
♠xxx ♥AQxxx ♦Axxx ♣x
Partner opens:
1♦-(P)-1♥-(2♣)
2♦*-(3♣)-?
2♦ usually denies holding 3-card ♥ support.
#2
Posted 2008-February-05, 03:47
George Carlin
#3
Posted 2008-February-05, 03:50
#4
Posted 2008-February-05, 04:26
I would imagine it is a GF.
#5
Posted 2008-February-05, 05:53
rogerclee, on Feb 5 2008, 05:26 AM, said:
I would imagine it is a GF.
Sure, ... agreeing diamonds.
And because 4D would be GF as well,
4C is a splinter.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#6
Posted 2008-February-05, 07:12
#7
Posted 2008-February-05, 07:15
#8
Posted 2008-February-05, 07:24
P_Marlowe, on Feb 5 2008, 11:53 AM, said:
rogerclee, on Feb 5 2008, 05:26 AM, said:
I would imagine it is a GF.
Sure, ... agreeing diamonds.
And because 4D would be GF as well,
4C is a splinter.
With kind regards
Marlowe
4D would be GF? why?
#9
Posted 2008-February-05, 07:44
lechcold, on Feb 5 2008, 08:24 AM, said:
P_Marlowe, on Feb 5 2008, 11:53 AM, said:
rogerclee, on Feb 5 2008, 05:26 AM, said:
I would imagine it is a GF.
Sure, ... agreeing diamonds.
And because 4D would be GF as well,
4C is a splinter.
With kind regards
Marlowe
4D would be GF? why?
I guess it is a matter of partnership agreement,
but at least I would prefer to have a forcing raise
available, which would allow to investigate 6D,
if one already plan to play 5D, instead of stopping
in 4D, when this is the last makebale spot.
Depending on agreement, 4D is quite often played
as aceasking for diamonds.
Besides, ... 4D bypasses 3NT, without making a
strong effort to play 3NT.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#10
Posted 2008-February-05, 07:59
Ideally we could bid 3♠ with this sort of hand, urging partner to bid 3NT if he has clubs stopped. But I wouldn't try that one even with discussion. I'll settle for 3♦, knowing it is an underbid. It's hard to show distributional raises of minor suits.
#11
Posted 2008-February-05, 08:20
P_Marlowe, on Feb 5 2008, 01:44 PM, said:
lechcold, on Feb 5 2008, 08:24 AM, said:
P_Marlowe, on Feb 5 2008, 11:53 AM, said:
rogerclee, on Feb 5 2008, 05:26 AM, said:
I would imagine it is a GF.
Sure, ... agreeing diamonds.
And because 4D would be GF as well,
4C is a splinter.
With kind regards
Marlowe
4D would be GF? why?
I guess it is a matter of partnership agreement,
but at least I would prefer to have a forcing raise
available, which would allow to investigate 6D,
if one already plan to play 5D, instead of stopping
in 4D, when this is the last makebale spot.
Depending on agreement, 4D is quite often played
as aceasking for diamonds.
Besides, ... 4D bypasses 3NT, without making a
strong effort to play 3NT.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Say you have ♥2 instead of ♥Q. What bid would you make?
3♦ in competitive auction is obviously not enough.
There ara a lot of similar sequences:
1
#12
Posted 2008-February-05, 09:43
lechcold, on Feb 5 2008, 09:20 AM, said:
3♦ in competitive auction is obviously not enough.
There ara a lot of similar sequences:
1
3D.
5D is a long way to go, if 5D makes,
partner will make another move.
And if you think 3D is not enough, although
given that you only would have 8 loosers,
go ahead, bid 5D.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#14
Posted 2008-February-05, 10:36
#15 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-February-05, 10:38
#16
Posted 2008-February-05, 10:47
*I liked my typo so much that I will leave it there.
#17
Posted 2008-February-05, 11:05
#18
Posted 2008-February-05, 11:39
Imagine Kx Kx KQJxxx xxx and game is good enough to bid even white.
Axx Kx KJxxxx xx and slam is reasonable even on their best lead of a spade.
And so on.
To me the choice is 4♣ or 5♦, and I opt for 4♣. But this is a matter of style: for me, 4♣ establishes the GF but is NOT a strong slam try: cues below game indicate willingness to cooperate if partner is interested, not strong interest myself... if I have the latter hand, then I will try again over a signoff with a really strong hand.
Thus, I am in a cooperative state here, not a strong slam move. That seems to me to be a far description of my suitability for slam: he will be encouraged by the heart K and the spade A, and will usually be discouraged otherwise.
#19
Posted 2008-February-05, 12:00
Jlall, on Feb 5 2008, 11:38 AM, said:
One of these day's you'll learn to be aggressive in your game bidding.
#20
Posted 2008-February-05, 12:02
lechcold, on Feb 6 2008, 02:24 AM, said:
P_Marlowe, on Feb 5 2008, 11:53 AM, said:
rogerclee, on Feb 5 2008, 05:26 AM, said:
I would imagine it is a GF.
Sure, ... agreeing diamonds.
And because 4D would be GF as well,
4C is a splinter.
With kind regards
Marlowe
4D would be GF? why?
We play that almost all free raises to 4minor is forcing. This simplifies slam bidding.
The only exception I can think of would be 3minor (Pass) 4minor.
This means all jumps to 4minor are forcing.
A non-jump after competition either directly in front of us or from our LHO and a pass from partner is always just competitive.
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