[jdonn]

Jlall, on Feb 3 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

How do we have a double fit? partner has 4 spades and we have 3, that's not a fit.

And even if you want to call this a double fit, partner DID know about it and left us the option of stopping in 4♣.

[mikeh]

I'm late to the thread, but this is an easy pass for me.. even before I read the comments of the other passers.

Bidding is hanging partner: whose choice was to defend 3♥ with some 4=5 or 4=6 in the blacks, with his 8-9 hcp, or be in game red with (almost) no play.... that is, that's the choice you are giving him when you take a push with a minimum takeout double.

Ok, we all double with a tad less hcp, but we would (I think) almost always hold 4 spades and/or a stiff heart with a weaker hcp hand.

And partner has to be an idiot to bid 4♣ with 5 spades or with only 4 clubs.

So pass. We are allowed to play partscores when vulnerable at imps, guys

[mike777]

rogerclee, on Feb 2 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

IMPs, Red vs White

♠QJ8
♥J8
♦AQT5
♣A862

In second seat:
1♥-Dbl-P-2♠
3♥-P-P-4♣
P-?

Go for the money?

Does not partner assume we are 4144 with an opening hand for our double at this vul?
If so then how do we have extra?

[Fluffy]

its a clear pass IMO, but QJx in spades is not the worst we can have, Qxx or Jxx are obviously worse and possible, Axx or Kxx might be even worse as well.

[gnasher]

pclayton, on Feb 3 2008, 08:12 PM, said:

Why worse?

We might have had an eight-card spade fit, but now we know we don't.

If partner had a second suit, it might have been diamonds, but now we know it isn't.

If partner had three hearts, it might have been safe to ruff the third round low, but now we know it isn't.