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#1
Posted 2008-January-28, 23:53
Your partner responded 2♦, what is your bid?
AQJxx, xx, Jxxx, Kx
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
#2
Posted 2008-January-28, 23:59
Btw, whats wrong with 1♠?
#3
Posted 2008-January-29, 00:10
#4
Posted 2008-January-29, 02:11
At least if my partner is from a civiliszed country like France, Poland or Germany. There "all" players know that this is the catch all bid and simply denies extra strength.
With partners from the wild west or some unkonown territories I will bid 3 Diamonds.
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#5
Posted 2008-January-29, 02:53
From reading the brief information given, I am assuming the 1 spade bid was made in first seat. So, in my opinion, as to what's wrong with 1 spade, that is not an opening hand by any stretch of my imagination. Maybe the rest of you open hands like that in first seat but I never do. Therefore, if I was to see the posted card is 2/1 and can't see bidding this piece of cheese to game, I would not rebid my 5 card spade suit nor would I raise the diamond bid or bid 2NT in fear that P is going to continue bidding with a 13 pointer until we reach a game. I would rather risk the anger of P or the assumption I know nothing about the 2/1 system (LOL) and the resulting bad score if P has more than a minimum opening hand. Therefore my bid over 2 diamonds would be pass. (Running, ducking, and doing whatever I can to avoid your negative replies to my solution.)
#6
Posted 2008-January-29, 02:55
#7
Posted 2008-January-29, 02:57
George Carlin
#8
Posted 2008-January-29, 03:11
Things got better - partner made a 2/1 in our second suit!
Now we can let partner know the good news by bidding 3♦
#9
Posted 2008-January-29, 03:13
#10
Posted 2008-January-29, 03:36
AQJxx
xx
Jxxx
Kx
(add a jack if you want 12 hcp) or as much as
AKQJx
xx
Kxxx
Ax
#11
Posted 2008-January-29, 04:43
#12
Posted 2008-January-29, 04:47
George Carlin
#13
Posted 2008-January-29, 04:51
2S is the safest bid you can make, but 3D
is certainly also a sensible bid.
After 2S Partner wont assume a 6 carder,
because you would bid 2S as well, if you would
hold the same hand, but with the minor suits
switched.
It would be different, if partner had bid 2C,
and you would hold 5 spades and 4 clubs,
because in this scenario, some partner may
expect 6 spades for a 2 S bid.
In this scenario I would raise.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#14
Posted 2008-January-29, 05:24
3♦ with someone from the Netherlands (I guess I'm feeling homesick). Well, 3♦ with someone from UK or Ireland also.
#15
Posted 2008-January-29, 09:57
With some 3♦ is GF, 2NT (11)13-14 balanced and 2♠ a catch-all.
I've played 2♠ as catch-all, 2NT as GF with support and 3♦ as min with support.
And I've even played that 2♠ promised 6 with 2NT a catch-all - a method I'd say is unplayable.
These methods can apply both in a 2/1 GF context and 2/1 10+.
Without agreements I'd expect the normal bid here to be 3♦. But in several environments that would be GF udiscussed.
Harald
#16
Posted 2008-January-29, 10:13
I wasnt sure how 2♠ would be understood so I bid 3♦. It is too easy to foster bad habits with pick up partners but harder to do the "right" thing when you know there is a good chance it will be misunderstood.
P held x,xxxx,AKQ10x,xxx
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft

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