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A Matter Of Overcall Weak 2?or simple overcall?

Poll: What would you bid? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you bid?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 1[_SP] (19 votes [76.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.00%

  3. 2[_SP] (6 votes [24.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.00%

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#1 User is offline   zasanya 

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Posted 2008-January-27, 03:27

Scoring: MP


Sorry East opened 1 ♥

This post has been edited by zasanya: 2008-January-27, 10:32

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Posted 2008-January-27, 03:32

1S. Why would I bid 2S on such a junky suit and 8 HCP outside my suit? Any scoring, any colors, any 1-level opener.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 03:35

Hi,

I dont see the auction, I guess East
opened and I am South?

1S.

Given the vulnerability, I am too strong
for 2S, and I am not prepared to bis 3S.

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Posted 2008-January-27, 04:02

rogerclee, on Jan 27 2008, 04:32 AM, said:

1S. Why would I bid 2S on such a junky suit and 8 HCP outside my suit? Any scoring, any colors, any 1-level opener.

agree 100 %
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Posted 2008-January-27, 07:46

Jlall, on Jan 27 2008, 11:02 AM, said:

rogerclee, on Jan 27 2008, 04:32 AM, said:

1S. Why would I bid 2S on such a junky suit and 8 HCP outside my suit? Any scoring, any colors, any 1-level opener.

agree 100 %

Me too.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 10:49

P_Marlowe, on Jan 27 2008, 04:35 AM, said:

Hi,

I dont see the auction, I guess East
opened and I am South?

1S.

Given the vulnerability, I am too strong
for 2S, and I am not prepared to bis 3S.

With kind regards
Marlowe

Corrected now; sorry.
Reason I asked was a vu-graph commentator suggested 2 ♠ and went on to explain that 2♠ is better than 1♠ because ♠ suit is not good !!
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Posted 2008-January-27, 12:03

1♠. This looks nothing like a 2♠ call to me. Yeah I know the Zia-ites would preempt this hand expecting to score all their minor winners, but pard isn't a passed hand and will frequently misjudge.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 13:22

Agree to 1♠, though on some occasions I might try 2.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 13:41

1S, no conditions whatsoever that would make me bid 2S.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-27, 18:28

2♠ is ill-disciplined and misleading. 1♠ is normal.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 18:52

Unanimous?
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Posted 2008-January-27, 23:44

Ummm...are you sure North wasn't dealer? Then I'd consider 2♠.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 09:13

1S

re: 2S, agree with others who point out that pard will not expect that much stuff outside spades. Don't think the spade suit is a problem though (depends on your agreements).

In Shanghai last year, Zia, Daniela Von Arnim and others, W/R, overcalled 1H with 2S with QT8432 2 KT97 T9.

Daniela and others, W/W, did likewise with QT6543 J96 T85 T.
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Posted 2008-January-28, 09:22

y66, on Jan 28 2008, 03:13 PM, said:

In Shanghai last year, Zia, Daniela Von Arnim and others, W/R, overcalled 1H with 2S with QT8432 2 KT97 T9.

Daniela and others, W/W, did likewise with QT6543 J96 T85 T.

These hands are different, as they have some offence and little defence. I doubt if the Italians bid 2♠ on these hands.

I wonder if the vugraph commentator was Australian? From what I've seen this is more common there.

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