[helene_t]

jillybean2, on Jan 30 2008, 06:32 PM, said:

to continue...

Does the rule "new suit by unpassed hand is forcing" apply in all situations.

I had this auction today,

1♣ 1♠
3♣ 3♦
swish!

It does not apply in all situations. What does apply in all situations is common sense.

Here, opener's 3♣ bid:
- Describes opener's strength accurately, hence there is no need for responder to invite. It is go/no-go: responder knows whether we want to play game or not.
- Promises a playable strain. If responder does not want to play in game, he just passes.

Furthermore, responder is unlimited and could easily have a slamish hand with 5-5 in spades/diamonds. Or a hand without a heart stopper, looking for 3NT.

So not only is a new suit forcing: any non-game bid is forcing, also 4♣ or 3♠.

[jillybean]

This was my hand; AKQTxx, Txx, Qxx, x
the table said I should have bid 4♠, in hindsight I should have but Im not sure it is the best bid

Helene please will you elaborate and show me a hand where you would apply
common sense and pass your (unpassed) partners new suit?

Thanks

[helene_t]

jillybean2, on Jan 30 2008, 07:39 PM, said:

Helene please will you elaborate and show me a hand where you would apply
common sense and pass your (unpassed) partners new suit?

1♠-1NT
2♥-3♣

Btw I would have bid 3♠ with your hand although I can see the rationale behind 3♦: if p had a double heart stop and half a diamond stop, 3♦ takes you to 3NT. 4♠ is ok too especially if you are a better declarer than p