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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-January-24, 10:10

QJ
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Qx
AKQxxxx

Kxx
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AKxxxx
J

N opens. NS have a normalish-to-lightish opening style.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 10:25

1C (1) - 1D (2)
2C - 2H (3)
2S (4) - 3NT (5)
all pass

(1) Standard American Style
(2) if possible, one could make a strong jump shift,
but for me the suit would not be good enough
(3) values, not necessary a 4 card suit, since opener
already denied one, forcing but not game forcing,
3D as forcing would be great, but for most it would
just be inv.
(4) FSF, asking for a stopper, 3C would be nonforcing,
in my opinion 2S does not generate a game forcing
auction, ... but I need to check this with my partner
(5) awkward, ... if 2S would be game forcing, 3D would be
clear cut, but since 2S is would not game forcing for me,
3NT it is, ... I fear 4NT could be interpreted as RKCB,
and I may interpret it as RKCB, and 3S instead of 3NT
does bypass 3NT for sure, when we have no idea, what
we want to play

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Posted 2008-January-24, 15:16

3NT - 6 - can't be much easier. B)
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Posted 2008-January-24, 15:55

skaeran, on Jan 24 2008, 04:16 PM, said:

3NT - 6 - can't be much easier. B)

Makes a lot of sense to me. Except that with several partners, I have different meanings for a 3NT opening bid other than the traditional Gambling NT.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 16:06

ArtK78, on Jan 24 2008, 10:55 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jan 24 2008, 04:16 PM, said:

3NT - 6 - can't be much easier.  B)

Makes a lot of sense to me. Except that with several partners, I have different meanings for a 3NT opening bid other than the traditional Gambling NT.

It isn't such a great convention, but on hand like these it hits gold.
3 as a solid minor is superior in itself, but I hate transfer preempts - I don't think I've ever come across any worse convention. And it's hard to use 3 as a solid minor without them. So, in the bin it goes.

Strangely enough, being a fan of lots of conventions and treatments, I've always stuck with the gambling 3NT in every single partnership to date (and that's quite a few). The main reason is probably that I dislike Namyats.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 16:14

gwnn, on Jan 24 2008, 11:10 AM, said:

QJ
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N opens. NS have a normalish-to-lightish opening style.

1C=1D
2C=2H
3C=4D (RKC FOR C)
5C=6C
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Posted 2008-January-24, 16:36

ArtK78, on Jan 24 2008, 04:55 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jan 24 2008, 04:16 PM, said:

3NT - 6 - can't be much easier.  B)

Makes a lot of sense to me. Except that with several partners, I have different meanings for a 3NT opening bid other than the traditional Gambling NT.

... and of course one may also argue, that the opening
hand is too strong for gambling 3NT opening bid.

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Posted 2008-January-24, 17:23

Isnt there a case for a red blooded rebid of 3C by opener?
2C is a bit wimpy - don't think even an old grannie in our part of the globe would
give it a passing thought.

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Posted 2008-January-25, 00:15

I think any sensible partnership should be in 6 not 6. All responder needs to do after 1-1-3 (2 is indeed wimpy)is to show a single suiter and once partner supports Bobs your uncle.

3 in what i would bid with my regular partner after 3 and there is no stopping us from reaching 6.

There is no point in guessing what each bid means. Agre on something,document it and play it.
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Posted 2008-January-25, 00:40

Yogeshdg, on Jan 25 2008, 01:15 AM, said:

I think any sensible partnership should be in 6 not 6.

Why? If opener rebids 3 like you recommend, this seems completely plausible.

1 1
3 3
4 4
5 5NT
6 P

I think it's possible to bid slam after a 2 rebid as well, but only with very solid agreements for the later bids and even then it's not at all easy. But 2 is still a reasonable rebid. If you bid 3 and partner bids 3NT, cross your fingers they don't run the first 5 tricks. Or 6, or 7...
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Posted 2008-January-25, 01:51

1 1
3 4
4 4
4 NT 5
5 NT 6

3 Club: 7 tricks + some quaks is enough for this.
4 Diamond: Ace asking for Diamonds
4 Heart: In the context of the bidding I have a bad hand for a Diamond slam
4 Spade: Who cares, still RCKB
4 NT 1( or 4)
5 Club: Queen of D? Any kings?
5 NT Queen of D and King of Club, no other king
6 Diamond I cannot believe that he bid 3 Club with this pile of rubish, but here we go.
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Posted 2008-January-25, 02:06

Codo surely if that's your auction you have enough info to bid 6NT instead of 6. It might also avoid embarrassment if partner has a singleton queen of diamonds.

Then again, I could probably say the same thing about my auction above, that responder could go to 6NT.
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Posted 2008-January-25, 02:15

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3♠ as a solid minor is superior in itself, but I hate transfer preempts - I don't think I've ever come across any worse convention. And it's hard to use 3♠ as a solid minor without them. So, in the bin it goes.


Curiously legal in Germany is:

3 = Natural preempt / Solid
3 = Natural preempt / Solid

Using this:

3! - 4NT (Ace asking, normally for )
5NT (solid ) - 6
Pass
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