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2♦ is the normal bid, but it certainly wouldn't be absurd to upgrade to a 3♦ rebid, though. Not just because I have 17 hcp and 3541, but because I have THESE 17 hcp and 3541. Give partner ♠Kxxxx out and we have play in 4♠.
Btw, before switching to strong club, I used to play 1♥-1♠,3♦-3♥ as "4th suit forcing", since 4♣>3NT. 4♣ would then be a slam try in ♥.
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Posted 2008-January-16, 18:01
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Posted 2008-January-17, 03:46
sceptic, on Jan 16 2008, 08:25 PM, said:
another question please,
I thought 2 diamonds was the right bid I should make, but I am a bit unsure of the correct continuation afterwards
had my pard bid 2 hearts (OBVIOUSLY IF HE HAD A DIFFERENT HAND) what should 3 spade bid show? a splinter? extra strength (top of the range)
what would 2 spades show?, a patterned out hand and as strong as a 2 diamond bid could be without a jump initially?
I thought 2 diamonds was the right bid I should make, but I am a bit unsure of the correct continuation afterwards
had my pard bid 2 hearts (OBVIOUSLY IF HE HAD A DIFFERENT HAND) what should 3 spade bid show? a splinter? extra strength (top of the range)
what would 2 spades show?, a patterned out hand and as strong as a 2 diamond bid could be without a jump initially?
1H - 1S - 2D - 2H - ?
2S = a patterned out hand and as strong as a 2 diamond bid could be without a jump initially
3S = I don't think this really exists. I would expect some sort of 3550 or 3640 that forgot to bid 3D last round.
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another question I have been asked is, why is 3 diamonds not the bid as a lot of people say they would automatically bid that as I am to strong for 2 diamonds
It is quite close, and depends a bit on your responsive style. Personally I would want the queen of spades or diamonds in addition before bidding 3D.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 03:51
sceptic, on Jan 16 2008, 02:36 PM, said:
another question I have been asked is, why is 3 diamonds not the bid as a lot of people say they would automatically bid that as I am to strong for 2 diamonds
3D forces to game.
And just ask yourself if you want to commit
to game oppossite a min. 1S response, which
could be made on 6HCP (even less) and a
bal. shape, if you say, yes, I am strong enough,
than go ahead, but most would say no.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-January-18, 15:22
Sorry for adding (possibly irrelevant) post so late.
I think this hand is a good candidate for doing some kind of simulation.
We need to know the % of minimum hands with which pard will pass 2♦ and we miss a game. (I am assuming with non-min response from pd, we will be in game no matter what).
Given the vulnerability and scoring, seems like stretching a bit to force game should atleast be considered...
I think this hand is a good candidate for doing some kind of simulation.
We need to know the % of minimum hands with which pard will pass 2♦ and we miss a game. (I am assuming with non-min response from pd, we will be in game no matter what).
Given the vulnerability and scoring, seems like stretching a bit to force game should atleast be considered...