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Ausi Bridge

Poll: Your call? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. PASS (17 votes [44.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.74%

  2. 2D (4 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  3. 2S (8 votes [21.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

  4. DOUBLE (9 votes [23.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.68%

  5. OTHER (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2008-January-09, 12:48

Scoring: IMP

P=P=P=1D
(2C)=?


Your call?
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Posted 2008-January-09, 13:07

I am not unhappy to pass with this hand
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-January-09, 13:22

If pard can't reopen then I'm cool defending. If pard can reopen then I bid 3♠.

Make the hand 5332 and I would bid 2♠ directly.
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Posted 2008-January-09, 13:42

Pass.

3 card clubs suggests passing. If partner can't act we miss nothing.

The danger with double is we cannot control the auction. e.g LHO bids 3♣ and partner bids 4♥ - to double without both majors we need a place to play, but can't be confident we will find it.

Don't really like 2♠ on a hand this weak, but it might work.
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Posted 2008-January-09, 14:13

Can live with either Pass or 2♦
Slight preference for 2♦

I'm a passed hand so partner won't go overboard. I have a number of ways to show 4-5 card raises, so partner shouldn't be surprised by three card support.
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Posted 2008-January-09, 14:43

Pass. Best chance to get spades in later.
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Posted 2008-January-09, 14:49

Pass.

Unfortunately, you are red
and 2nd seat, elsewise it may
have been possible to ask,
why did you not open 2S? :)

I dont like the alternatives, so
Pass it is, 2S should promise
diamond support, and I dont think
I have sufficient support, thats why
no 2D bid either, and if I make a t/o
X, I cant stand a 2H bid by opener,
so Pass it is.
Sometimes they get you.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2008-January-09, 19:27

I double with this hand.

Double shows enough values to compete at the current level and a desire to do so or many strong hands since we play negative free bids. The ♦Qxx in partner's suit make this hand too good to pass in my opinion. Swap the diamonds and the clubs and I pass happy to defend if partner cannot bid something.
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Posted 2008-January-09, 19:30

Cascade, on Jan 9 2008, 07:27 PM, said:

I double with this hand.

Double shows enough values to compete at the current level and a desire to do so or many strong hands since we play negative free bids. The ♦Qxx in partner's suit make this hand too good to pass in my opinion. Swap the diamonds and the clubs and I pass happy to defend if partner cannot bid something.

What does your partner reply with 2443 or 3442 and a weak NT? If 2♥, what are you going to do over that?
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Posted 2008-January-09, 20:34

Glad we finally got a nonpass post.

A lot of great players bid alot of different things on this hand. Will post some of the magazine responses after we get a few more non pass posts. B)
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Posted 2008-January-09, 23:33

cherdano, on Jan 10 2008, 02:30 PM, said:

Cascade, on Jan 9 2008, 07:27 PM, said:

I double with this hand.

Double shows enough values to compete at the current level and a desire to do so or many strong hands since we play negative free bids.  The ♦Qxx in partner's suit make this hand too good to pass in my opinion.  Swap the diamonds and the clubs and I pass happy to defend if partner cannot bid something.

What does your partner reply with 2443 or 3442 and a weak NT? If 2♥, what are you going to do over that?

Well we won't have that hand since we play a weak NT in 1st/2nd seat and in 3rd/4th seat we would open the major.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 01:12

easy 2D for me. X might lead us at the 3 level and pass is a bit dangerous. I really dont see how 2D could backfire.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 02:16

wtp 2 ♠ bid :D

Yes I am min. for my NFB, but pd opened in 4. hand. So, I trust him to hold spades And/ORa really good hand. And: All my values are in the suits we have fit, so I really thought this is a wtp- but history (the first answers) taught my, that I was wrong again.

The answer I would really hate to see if I had opened 1 Diamond in 4. seat is 2 Diamond with this hand. Why on earth should I not have a 4432 hand? I would believe that this is much more a possibility then a real 5+ card diamond suit.

Pass could work well, but I am not in chicken mood today.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 02:19

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Unfortunately, you are red
and 2nd seat, elsewise it may
have been possible to ask,
why did you not open 2S?


You are still as agressive with preempts as always...

Pass WTP?
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Posted 2008-January-10, 04:28

It's a pass. You're not good enough to bid 2♠ (we're not playing NFBs), and partner knows how to balance.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 05:00

Playing with my partner I double, as 1♦ promises 5♦ so we have a place to play. When I convert partners ♥ bid to spades he will know that I should have some ♦ fit.

If playing sayc i'll pass and wait for the reopening.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 07:08

I would bid 2S but can live with a pass.

What's NFB got to do with anything? We are a passed hand.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 11:17

FrancesHinden, on Jan 11 2008, 02:08 AM, said:

I would bid 2S but can live with a pass.

What's NFB got to do with anything? We are a passed hand.

Some still require a new suit to show a near opening hand.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 01:12

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The answer I would really hate to see if I had opened 1 Diamond in 4. seat is 2 Diamond with this hand. Why on earth should I not have a 4432 hand? I would believe that this is much more a possibility then a real 5+ card diamond suit.


If you are playing better minor & weak nt a 1D opening hands show 5 or + D close to 50% of the times. For strong NT i dont know the number but i guess its close to 40%. While exact 4432 is a 18/1000 pattern but since only 12-14 hands are troublesome only 1% of all openings hand (preempt not included) will be 12-14 exact 4432. I guess a 1D opening in a Str NT/better minor setup is close to 20% of the openings(preempt excluded) so after a 1D opening my estimate is 5% of the times you will have 4432 (12-14) and 40% of the times you will have 5D or +, 55% your going to have 4 D.

The fact that opponent overcall 2C and didnt make a take-out double make opener favorite to be major oriented. But far to the point where 4432 is a likely hand.

Also Im not afraid to open 1C holding 4432 in 4th seat (12-14 & with more points in C then in D) since im pretty sure partner is going to make a response.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 01:34

FrancesHinden, on Jan 10 2008, 05:08 AM, said:

I would bid 2S but can live with a pass.

What's NFB got to do with anything? We are a passed hand.

Yeah but we have a 7 count?

I don't mind stretching but 2♠ seems a little rich.
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