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Taking a stand SF Sec'l Hand 6

#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2008-January-14, 02:40

Scoring: MP

1♦ - (1♥) - 2♣ - (2♥)
P - (P) - Dbl - (P)
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Posted 2008-January-14, 02:48

I'll go for blood and pass. Partner's most likely shape is 3145 (could be 3136), which should net us a couple of clubs, though I am a little worried about the diamond fit.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 02:54

At matchpoints this looks like a 'Pass WTP' to me. :)
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 03:00

we are w/r? Pass very happily.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 03:00

3D.

Ok, I dont have the nerves to
play 2Hx with those trumps.

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Posted 2008-January-14, 03:02

I bid a quiet 2♠, as I would do at IMPs.

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Posted 2008-January-14, 04:30

3♦
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Posted 2008-January-14, 05:45

Pard's expectancy is a 4135 or 3145, so I'm bidding 3♦ here too.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 12:39

I don't think partner is likely to be 4=1=3=5 as he would likely double 1♥ initially.

I bid 2NT scrambling. I don't like defending with Axxx in trumps at the 2-level. This time we were rewarded when the overcaller bid yet again and I had no problem defending at the 3-level.

As it happens, if you chose to defend here at the 2-level, you get the magic 200. Our declarer matched his play with his bidding and went for 800.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 13:47

Echognome, on Jan 17 2008, 06:39 PM, said:

I don't think partner is likely to be 4=1=3=5 as he would likely double 1♥ initially.

Depends on how strong you are. With a strong hand it's normal to bid 2♣.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 13:55

Echognome, on Jan 17 2008, 10:39 AM, said:

I don't think partner is likely to be 4=1=3=5 as he would likely double 1♥ initially.

I bid 2NT scrambling.  I don't like defending with Axxx in trumps at the 2-level.  This time we were rewarded when the overcaller bid yet again and I had no problem defending at the 3-level.

As it happens, if you chose to defend here at the 2-level, you get the magic 200.  Our declarer matched his play with his bidding and went for 800.

Agree, 3136 with shaky clubs seems likely, not a 4135 or 4126.

Why would you scramble here? I can't imagine pard not having 3♦'s here.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:02

pclayton, on Jan 17 2008, 11:55 AM, said:

Echognome, on Jan 17 2008, 10:39 AM, said:

I don't think partner is likely to be 4=1=3=5 as he would likely double 1♥ initially.

I bid 2NT scrambling.  I don't like defending with Axxx in trumps at the 2-level.  This time we were rewarded when the overcaller bid yet again and I had no problem defending at the 3-level.

As it happens, if you chose to defend here at the 2-level, you get the magic 200.  Our declarer matched his play with his bidding and went for 800.

Agree, 3136 with shaky clubs seems likely, not a 4135 or 4126.

Why would you scramble here? I can't imagine pard not having 3♦'s here.

Because I want to give partner a choice of suits to play in. Do we really mind playing in a 6-1 club fit if his clubs are good? We do have an honor for him there.

Partner should give us diamond preference with any 5-card club suit don't you think?
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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:10

I'd pass.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:45

Echognome, on Jan 17 2008, 12:02 PM, said:

pclayton, on Jan 17 2008, 11:55 AM, said:

Echognome, on Jan 17 2008, 10:39 AM, said:

I don't think partner is likely to be 4=1=3=5 as he would likely double 1♥ initially.

I bid 2NT scrambling.  I don't like defending with Axxx in trumps at the 2-level.  This time we were rewarded when the overcaller bid yet again and I had no problem defending at the 3-level.

As it happens, if you chose to defend here at the 2-level, you get the magic 200.  Our declarer matched his play with his bidding and went for 800.

Agree, 3136 with shaky clubs seems likely, not a 4135 or 4126.

Why would you scramble here? I can't imagine pard not having 3♦'s here.

Because I want to give partner a choice of suits to play in. Do we really mind playing in a 6-1 club fit if his clubs are good? We do have an honor for him there.

Partner should give us diamond preference with any 5-card club suit don't you think?

If his clubs are good, why is he horsing around with a double?
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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:50

pclayton, on Jan 17 2008, 12:45 PM, said:

Echognome, on Jan 17 2008, 12:02 PM, said:

pclayton, on Jan 17 2008, 11:55 AM, said:

Echognome, on Jan 17 2008, 10:39 AM, said:

I don't think partner is likely to be 4=1=3=5 as he would likely double 1♥ initially.

I bid 2NT scrambling.  I don't like defending with Axxx in trumps at the 2-level.  This time we were rewarded when the overcaller bid yet again and I had no problem defending at the 3-level.

As it happens, if you chose to defend here at the 2-level, you get the magic 200.  Our declarer matched his play with his bidding and went for 800.

Agree, 3136 with shaky clubs seems likely, not a 4135 or 4126.

Why would you scramble here? I can't imagine pard not having 3♦'s here.

Because I want to give partner a choice of suits to play in. Do we really mind playing in a 6-1 club fit if his clubs are good? We do have an honor for him there.

Partner should give us diamond preference with any 5-card club suit don't you think?

If his clubs are good, why is he horsing around with a double?

Because he's a joker?

No, we know his clubs aren't *that* good as we hold the Q. But it just felt right to give him a choice of minors. Maybe that wasn't right, but just what I thought of doing at the time.
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Posted 2008-January-17, 14:56

3♦. Passing may be the winning action, but it could also be the losing action. The opps have 8 trump (at least it appears that they do) so they are within the LAW. The question is - do we have a game available? It is possible. Partner is unlimited. We would have to take 7 tricks against 2♥x to beat game. And, of course, we have to take 6 tricks against 2♥x for passing to be right against a part score.

I am just not willing to defend against 2♥x with the Axxx of trump. Furthermore, communications on defense may be a problem.
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