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I am strongly congnizant of the 30-point deck concept.
But the 30 point deck requires tight constraints on the splinter range in order for opener to know how to continue.
KJxx, x, AKQx, xxxx
AQxxx, Ax, xxx, Q10x
KJxx, x, AKQx, Kxxx
AQxxx, Ax, xxx, Q10x
You may say that with the second hand responder should bid again over 4S, but how do you know partner didn't simply sign off with:
AQxxxx, KQJ, xx, xx
So even with the 30-point deck, unless rigid HCP restraints are used, the problem gets back to the same issue - is the splinter an exclusion bid or control-showing bid?
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Posted 2008-January-14, 19:39
Speaking up for the not-native English speakers reading this, I'd like to request the use of short simple words. Preferably correctly spelled for our benefit.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 19:52
Hannie, on Jan 14 2008, 08:39 PM, said:
Speaking up for the not-native English speakers reading this, I'd like to request the use of short simple words. Preferably correctly spelled for our benefit.
O.K. Better yet, how about initials. They are even shorter. Try these on for size. F.U.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 22:15
At least he was congnizant of an idea, and not bongnizant of the idea.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 22:17
I go with the no-control in the unbid suit when I splinter. Had many discussions on this topic, including the one in this thread....
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Posted 2008-January-14, 22:44
inquiry, on Jan 14 2008, 11:17 PM, said:
I go with the no-control in the unbid suit when I splinter. Had many discussions on this topic, including the one in this thread....
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Whereas this is a good rule, IMO, when there is one side suit (and space for alternative sequences), this same principle does not apply particularly well when there are two side suits. I doubt you will use a splinter too often after 1♠-P-? if you need no control in either side suit. What would the hand look like? ♠AKQx ♥Qxxx ♦Qxxx ♣x?
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Posted 2008-January-15, 07:01
For me splinters is first a way to check for wasted values & secondly to count losers and 3rd a way to show a control.
My splinters then to worked best when your I hold enough trumps to ruff everything that is possible to ruff & when there is no establishable long suit.
They tend to not work the way i like when I have another short or long 2nd suit.
I dont care that much about controls because wasted values will get it right most of the time= If partner doesnt have waste then you probably dont have 2 quick loser anyway if partner has waste then even with all keycards but no establishable 2nd suit and few extras slam will be unlikely.
The tough cases for splinters IMHO is when the hcp facing the singleton are not waste because you can pitch losers.
axx
x
vs
xxx
AKQ
T vs AKJx
etc
My splinters then to worked best when your I hold enough trumps to ruff everything that is possible to ruff & when there is no establishable long suit.
They tend to not work the way i like when I have another short or long 2nd suit.
I dont care that much about controls because wasted values will get it right most of the time= If partner doesnt have waste then you probably dont have 2 quick loser anyway if partner has waste then even with all keycards but no establishable 2nd suit and few extras slam will be unlikely.
The tough cases for splinters IMHO is when the hcp facing the singleton are not waste because you can pitch losers.
axx
x
vs
xxx
AKQ
T vs AKJx
etc
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