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A favorable lead 3NT safely home

#1 User is offline   Kaapo 

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Posted 2008-January-09, 12:12

You declare 3NT. Scoring is IMPs:

Scoring: IMP

South North
1NT 3NT


West leads the 3 (4th best), which you let ride to your hand (East plays the 5). Next you play Q, which is won by West, East discarding a spade. West doesn't help you with your ninth trick, but continues diamonds instead. You take the marked finesse against J. These cards are left:

Scoring: IMP

South North
1NT 3NT

You've won 2 tricks. How do you play the rest?
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Posted 2008-January-09, 12:19

Lol, I looked at this one for a moment, then thought "Heh this should be a B/I problem", the realized it was :)
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Posted 2008-January-09, 14:41

The dangerous opponent is EAST.

Both majors are finessable either way, so I'll be leading towards my hand for both finesses.

I doubt west has 4 hearts, as I generally prefer (rightly or wrongly) to lead from a 4 card major than a 4 card minor on this auction.

So cash the last diamond. KH, H to the 9. If it loses, west must return a heart to avoid giving me the 9th trick, IF HE CAN. Win the T, KS, low to the T. Now, he has to return a spade (or a heart, if I was wrong and he had 4) to avoid giving me the 9th trick. Now I win the jack and finesse the king of clubs.

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Posted 2008-January-09, 14:46

vuroth, on Jan 9 2008, 03:41 PM, said:

The dangerous opponent is EAST.

Both majors are finessable either way, so I'll be leading towards my hand for both finesses.

I doubt west has 4 hearts, as I generally prefer (rightly or wrongly) to lead from a 4 card major than a 4 card minor on this auction. 

So cash the last diamond.  KH, H to the 9.  If it loses, west must return a heart to avoid giving me the 9th trick, IF HE CAN.  Win the T, KS, low to the T.  Now, he has to return a spade (or a heart, if I was wrong and he had 4) to avoid giving me the 9th trick.  Now I win the jack and finesse the king of clubs.

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Posted 2008-January-09, 15:00

This is at least 95%....

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Posted 2008-January-09, 15:03

Nice problem. I think these sorts of plays (which get pretty darned complicated, as in Reese's Master Play) are particularly elegant.
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Posted 2008-January-09, 15:05

jtfanclub, on Jan 9 2008, 01:00 PM, said:

This is at least 95%....

Right. And given the auction and lead, it's 95% + 5%.

NB: I agree with your line thereafter.
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Posted 2008-January-10, 07:23

This hand really took place on BBO. Unfortunately most declarers received a lead from QJ753AJ43AQJ8, after which it was a different story.
I just discovered a truly remarkable bidding system!
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Posted 2008-January-10, 10:24

10->K
Ace->10
K->6
2->9
if east can win this hes endplayed.
if not its the 9th trick
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Posted 2008-January-10, 11:05

karaprens, on Jan 10 2008, 11:24 AM, said:

10->K
Ace->10
K->6
2->9
if east can win this hes endplayed.
if not its the 9th trick

What if West shows out on the third heart?
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Posted 2008-January-10, 11:26

jtfanclub, on Jan 10 2008, 06:05 PM, said:

karaprens, on Jan 10 2008, 11:24 AM, said:

10->K
Ace->10
K->6
2->9
if east can win this hes endplayed.
if not its the 9th trick

What if West shows out on the third heart?

There are some easts and wests confused in these posts, but the general idea is correct.

After playing 4 rounds of diamonds, you continue with the ace of hearts (unblocking the 10), a heart to the king in dummy and a third heart towards the Q9 in hand.

- If East follows, you finesse the 9. Either this holds (9 tricks) or West started with Jxx and is endplayed to give you the king of clubs or the spade finesse.

- If East discards on the third heart you win the queen and exit with the 9 which endplays West in the same way.
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