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#1 User is offline   jocdelevat 

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Posted 2008-January-13, 12:34

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Scoring: MP


West North East South

 1    Pass  2   ?

2h weak

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Scoring: MP


West North East South

 -      Pass  Pass  1
 2    2    Pass  3
 4    Dbl   Pass   ?
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Posted 2008-January-13, 12:43

I'd bid 3 on the first one, which is a strong bid. Just too much compared to what I might hold.

oops sorry misread the vulnerability and scoring on 2nd one. obvious pass.
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Posted 2008-January-13, 12:47

#1 2S, followed if necessary by 3S.
2S is heavy, but than I fail to see the
alternatvies, and if 4S makes, partner
will move
#2 Pass, I told my story and partner does
not want to hear 4S

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Posted 2008-January-13, 13:23

1) 2S is enough for me. The cards outside of spades are really poor. I will bid 3S if 3H comes back to me.

2) I have no idea why I did not bid 4S the previous round. I guess I'll do that now. I tend to believe that at these colors, my opponents prefer not to give away free candy against potential partscores.
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Posted 2008-January-13, 13:26

1. 2 for now. Got too much strength. If opps bid 4... well, I'll see what to do about that later.

2. 4. As rogerclee said.
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Posted 2008-January-13, 13:28

1) 2
2) Abstain. This is a 4 bid last round, not a NF 3 bid.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-January-13, 13:44

3S
Pass

If these answers produce poor results I have either been fixed or am playing with the wrong partner.
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Posted 2008-January-13, 13:56

1. 3 - shows a good hand.

2. Why didn't I bid 4 the 1st time? I have a very prime 15 count. What to do now?

Hartman's Rule and Hamman's motto of "Trust your vulnerable opponents" both come to mind.

I've gone back and forth (twice). Some of the hands I constructed have us beating 4 for 500 when we are making 4, but we are still getting 4 for 200. I hate playing tops and bottoms but I think LHO has stepped in it if I trust pard, so I'll pass.
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Posted 2008-January-13, 14:34


Scoring: MP


West North East South

 -     -     1    Pass
 2    3    Pass  Pass
 4    Pass  Pass  Pass
 



4h-2 pard(advanced level)says should have double because 3s shows weak hand.
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West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  1    2    2
 Pass  3    4    Dbl
 Pass  4    Pass  Pass
 Pass  



4s down one
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Posted 2008-January-13, 14:37

Like I said above: "I have either been fixed or am playing with the wrong partner. "

So, we can eliminate the "getting fixed" part - what does that leave?
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Posted 2008-January-13, 14:44

I'm trying to fathom what aspect of your pard's ability is 'advanced'?
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Posted 2008-January-13, 15:45

Just bid 4S on the first one if you are playing with a random partner, they won't know what 3S means anyways. There is a difference between good bridge and winning bridge.

As far as trusting your vulnerable opponents, this also does not apply vs random opponents. Hamman plays against non random opponents and thus can take liberties like assuming the opps have not gone insane. Against almost all opponents if they bid 2C and then 4C vulnerable I would totally assume they did not have their bid, especially when partner doubles them.
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Posted 2008-January-14, 10:59

jocdelevat, on Jan 13 2008, 03:34 PM, said:

4h-2 pard(advanced level)says should have double because 3s shows weak hand.

I know I'm (relatively) new at this, but why would you want to preempt opponents when they have not yet found a fit, and one of them is known to be weak?

If 2 were strong, then I can see 3 being preemptive.

As for blasting, I disagree. It's cynical to assume pickup partner won't understand, or will criticize. Yes, it can and does happen, but how can you improve as a bridge player (and how can you find and develop new partnerships) if you're constantly chosing defensive bids over what you think is right?

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Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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