accept the invite?
#1
Posted 2007-December-28, 08:47
♠98xx
♥Axx
♦10xx
♣Kxx
1♥-(2♦)-2♥-(3♦)
Dbl-(pass)-???
It's a maximal (game invitational) double.
#2
Posted 2007-December-28, 09:06
Excuse me while I attempt to hijack the thread...
In a recent ACBL bulletin, Frank Stewart says he likes to play a style where you stretch to invite game, but don't stretch to accept the invitation. Is this a common agreement in the expert community?
Nick
#3
Posted 2007-December-28, 09:15
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#5
Posted 2007-December-28, 09:22
If this hand is good enough to produce a game, most of the time partner would just bid the game, not invite.
You have 2 cover cards - the ♥A and the ♣K. To produce a game, partner would need a five loser hand. Most game invitational hands are six loser hands. He is looking for 3 potential cover cards. You do not have them.
I do not accept the invite.
That is not to say that game won't make. But it is likely to be AT BEST on a finesse or two.
#6
Posted 2007-December-28, 09:25
KJx
KQxxx
xx
AQx
#7
Posted 2007-December-28, 09:34
So many experts, not enough X cards.
#8
Posted 2007-December-28, 10:31
#9
Posted 2007-December-28, 10:48
With many hands offering good play for game opposite mine, PD could have just bid game himself. ie.. those with a 6th ♥ and maybe a stiff ♦ and containing hard values in ♠ rather than needing a hook, and/ or something useful in ♣.
This is likely close, but I have to retreat to 3♥
#10
Posted 2007-December-28, 11:04
-P.J. Painter.
#11
Posted 2007-December-28, 11:15
Picture a few hands:
1. AQx, KQxxxx, x, Axx (game is decent. We need the spade hook (maybe 3:1 on your left or 3-3 spades or a remote endplay. The ♠7 gives us additional chances, although we might need a key trump pip for another entry)
2. Kx, KQxxx, xx, AQxx (game is poor - we need 3-3 clubs (or a black suit squeeze) and the spade Ace onside).
3. Ax, KQJxxx, xx, Axx (game is pretty hopeless).
I think on balance its right to pass, although I'd be tempted if we were vul.
#12
Posted 2007-December-28, 11:18
#13
Posted 2007-December-28, 11:19
If partner would open 1N with a 3=5=2=3 or some such, this would make an accept significantly more attractive. Partner is probably sitting on some shape (perhaps a 3=5=1=4 or a 2=6=2=3). My Ace and my King are suddenly looking a lot stronger and the my sterile 4=3=3=3 isn't nearly as much of a concern...
Even if partner could hold a 5332, I'd still strongly consider accepting the invite. I bid 2♥ in competition. Had the auction started
1♥ - (P) - 2♥ - (3♦)
X
I'd consider my hand pretty minimal for the single raise. However, as things stand, I think this looks like an average to average plus competitive raise.
I guess that I just talked myself into 4♥
#14
Posted 2007-December-28, 11:54
#15
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#16
Posted 2007-December-28, 12:47
#17
Posted 2007-December-28, 12:51
#18
Posted 2007-December-28, 12:52
Fluffy, on Dec 28 2007, 01:51 PM, said:
Just confirming that it wasn't a clear accept.
#19
Posted 2007-December-28, 13:09
Absolutely not a "clear accept" as demonstrated by the overwhelming majority who declined.
#20
Posted 2007-December-28, 13:47
Apollo81, on Dec 28 2007, 06:47 PM, said:
That's resulting. The club double fit and diamond singleton is what makes it a good game and there's no way responder could have guessed that. Maybe the diamond he could, but the clubs I don't think so.