Test your slam bidding - II
#1
Posted 2007-December-28, 14:59
White on red, pard opens 1♦ as dealer:
♠x
♥Ax
♦QJxxx
♣KJTxx
Your call?
Note: 2♦ is inverted and shows a limit raise or better. 3 major is a splinter. 2♣ is 100% GF.
#2
Posted 2007-December-28, 15:07
#3
Posted 2007-December-28, 15:16
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#5
Posted 2007-December-28, 15:26
If not, I'm bidding 2♦.
#6
Posted 2007-December-28, 15:31
Game forcing diamond raise, short spades, no four-card heart suit.
My clubs are not so good as to bid 2♣ followed by 3♦ (forcing). The splinter gets everything into play at once.
#7
Posted 2007-December-28, 15:32
-P.J. Painter.
#8
Posted 2007-December-28, 15:51
We actually play that 3♠ would be a void and all singleton GF hands go through the inverted minor. So I would start with 2♦ in my regular partnership.
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#9
Posted 2007-December-28, 16:18
#12
Posted 2007-December-28, 17:45
1. people usually have no agreements on follow-ups, and
2. they splinter on unsuitable hands, like this one
This needs some careful bidding. I ain't going to blast 3♠ and eat 3 levels of bidding while passing the ball to a pard who might well be the weaker hand.
2♣ for me.
#13
Posted 2007-December-28, 17:45
Whatever you choose, pick your action when LHO now puts a red/white 4♠ call on the table. pard and RHO pass.
In order to avoid scrolling back, tell me what you chose, and what you now bid.
#15
Posted 2007-December-28, 17:51
Having started with 3♠, I will double when 4♠ comes back to me. I have already shown at most 1♠ (and I have exactly one), at least 5♦ (and I have only five), and game forcing values (for which I am quite minimum). Given what I've already shown this is a fairly defensive hand (sure I'd like to have a second ace somewhere instead of the slow minor suit cards).
If I started with 2♣, surely it must be right to bid 5♦ next. We have shown a better hand that we have and have never shown our diamond fit at all nor our spade shortness.
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#16
Posted 2007-December-28, 18:13
whereagles, on Dec 28 2007, 06:48 PM, said:
pass (pass) 5♦
Life seems easy so far.. lol.
This is why I don't like 2♣. What if partner DOUBLES 4♠? Merry guessing. If you splinter you can happily defend 4♠X when it's right.
I don't understand your arguments. They were
- People don't have suitable followups to splinters, which I don't understand or agree with (3NT to play, cuebids, what could be easier?) In fact it's 1♦ 2♣ auctions where many have bad agreements or no agreements.
- This hand is not suitable for a splinter, so your argument was just repeating your point. Well in fairness to you, you were more making an argument about splinters in general than about this hand when you said people often splinter on unsuitable hands. Which is sort of like saying "I hate having chicken for dinner because my wife always burns it." That ignores the point that when cooked properly, chicken can be delicious
And then you finish by saying pard might be weaker than your 11 count? Huh?
#17
Posted 2007-December-28, 18:35
#18
Posted 2007-December-28, 18:37
Had I splintered, then doubling seems right.
#19
Posted 2007-December-28, 19:33
2♣ is IMO best if they aren't gonna compete, you will very likelly be able to splinter later.
Ooops, sorry, that was pedantic

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