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I'm surprised he went to the well with a wide open diamond suit. Hearts are decent in context but doesn't help declarer much.
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Posted 2007-December-31, 13:02
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Posted 2007-December-31, 13:23
I guess I'm going against the grain but I think partner bid fine and we don't have a slam bid. Maybe someone can convince me I'm wrong, but I would want beefier clubs. How does he know we don't have the same hand with QJTx of clubs?
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Posted 2007-December-31, 13:41
I think partner bid okay, but I would've passed. Despite my Axx of clubs, I can't really make any really great judgments about partner's hand other than that he has a lot of black cards. If partner has two small diamonds, we're dead on lead and it's very possible we won't make 5.
Thinking in another way, I am likely to cover at most two losers in partner's hand. Partner has at least 3.5 losers for not opening 2C with his strong spade suit. Consequently, slam is unlikely to be better than on a finesse.
Thinking in another way, I am likely to cover at most two losers in partner's hand. Partner has at least 3.5 losers for not opening 2C with his strong spade suit. Consequently, slam is unlikely to be better than on a finesse.
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Posted 2007-December-31, 14:05
jdonn, on Dec 31 2007, 02:23 PM, said:
I guess I'm going against the grain but I think partner bid fine and we don't have a slam bid. Maybe someone can convince me I'm wrong, but I would want beefier clubs. How does he know we don't have the same hand with QJTx of clubs?
I am with Josh here: I think bidding slam after 5♠ is flat-out wildly optimistic.
I think the problem is that we are failing to realize what our auction sounds like to partner. In particular, he will be expecting BETTER CLUBS. He will think (as the actual hand demonstrates) that either the A or the K will probably solve most of our problems in that suit. So he will and should make a move on many hands with a top club. I am not entirely sure that the hand he held is quite good enough..... I think 10x Axxxxx xx Axx is far better, because possession of a diamond control is no good unless you also have the heart Ace. But the majority of the fault lies, I think, with opener.
Bidding slam requires that we assess the odds of losing no more than one club trick at better than 50%... better, because there is a non-trivial, if small, chance of having a trump loser.
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Posted 2007-December-31, 14:26
I personally have a problem with 5♠. I think opener (me) has made it very clear that hearts aren't an issue on this hand.
Overcall its a tricky hand.
Overcall its a tricky hand.
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Posted 2008-January-06, 16:11
On hands like these, I try to always remember an old adage: "Good hands shouldn't bid bad suits."
The JS to 3C creates all sorts of problems by bidding, strongly, a suit of quality significantly less than that of the hand.
That responder decided to show his own suit after opener requested a preference in the blacks is equally odious.
Without any system over 1NT, I would jump to 3S if that was forcing, or 4S otherwise (and wish I had opened 2C).
The JS to 3C creates all sorts of problems by bidding, strongly, a suit of quality significantly less than that of the hand.
That responder decided to show his own suit after opener requested a preference in the blacks is equally odious.
Without any system over 1NT, I would jump to 3S if that was forcing, or 4S otherwise (and wish I had opened 2C).