missed slam
#1
Posted 2007-December-22, 14:34
George Carlin
#3
Posted 2007-December-22, 14:49
#4
Posted 2007-December-22, 14:52
Blofeld, on Dec 22 2007, 12:49 PM, said:
Its a good slam. Its cold on a non-club lead, and a little better than 50-50 otherwise.
I think South could make another move with 5♣. When you hold the ♠AK and partner makes a slam try, you should consider cooperating.
Pass is far from unreasonable however.
#5 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-December-22, 15:03
Blofeld, on Dec 22 2007, 03:49 PM, said:
Don't agree with this.
#6
Posted 2007-December-22, 15:07
Maybe I'm overestimating the chances that the opponents find the club lead.
#7
Posted 2007-December-22, 15:15
So scratch that. I just have a very bad intuitive idea of which slams we want to be in.
#8
Posted 2007-December-22, 15:23
Blofeld, on Dec 22 2007, 04:07 PM, said:
That would make the amount of IMPs you win for bidding slam very large right?
I was responder so won't comment.
- hrothgar
#10
Posted 2007-December-22, 16:58
1nt-2♥
2♠-3♥ (1)
3♠-3NT(2)
4♣(4)-4♦(4)....
5♦(5) -6♠
(1)-retransfer
(2)-forcing, SI 6+♠, no shortage
(4)-cues
(5)-reevaluating, the hand value increased, denies ♥ control, second round ♣ control, emphasis is on concentrated hcp in ♦ and trump
Still a tough slam to bid
#11
Posted 2007-December-23, 03:22
If north was in need of recovery he can try some other funny stuff, but given who he is, it is highly unlikelly
#12
Posted 2007-December-23, 13:37
Edmunte1, on Dec 22 2007, 02:58 PM, said:
1nt-2♥
2♠-3♥ (1)
3♠-3NT(2)
4♣(4)-4♦(4)....
5♦(5) -6♠
(1)-retransfer
(2)-forcing, SI 6+♠, no shortage
(4)-cues
(5)-reevaluating, the hand value increased, denies ♥ control, second round ♣ control, emphasis is on concentrated hcp in ♦ and trump
Still a tough slam to bid
Aren't 3♥ and 3N redundant here?
I would think Opener could cue 4♣ directly over 3♥.
#13 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-December-23, 13:41
#14
Posted 2007-December-23, 16:43
While south has a minimum fifteen it is almost all controls and the J10 provide potential for further tricks.
I am not sure after one further move whether we will get to slam.
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#15
Posted 2007-December-23, 16:46
1NT 2♥
2♠ 4♠
5♣ 5♦
5♠ 6♠
looks very reasonable to me.
North also has controls and I think would easily accept when south takes a move. Slam makes opposite this fitting 15 count and opener could have a better hand without a heart control and bid the same way.
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
#16
Posted 2007-December-23, 16:56
#17 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-December-23, 17:45
jdonn, on Dec 23 2007, 05:56 PM, said:
5S
#18
Posted 2007-December-25, 15:44
I also like 1NT-transfer-simple-3OM to be a slam move. So, if I did that, Opener would cue 3♠ (two of the top three clubs), and Responder would bid 3NT (serious, after learning this), and Opener would bid 4♣ (club control). Responder would bid 4♦ (diamond control -- not shortness because no initial 4♦).
Now, if Opener happened to bid 4♥ as LTTC, Responder would accept, primed out an all.
This sequence, however, requires that Responder upgrade his enthusiasm by the information provided about the solid trumps and that Opener upgrade his enthusiasm by the presence of the diamond Ace, either of which is plausible but somewhat unlikely.
I think I would either miss this one or, if arriving at the slam, feel that a bad move by one of us turned up lucky gold.
-P.J. Painter.
#19
Posted 2007-December-25, 23:44
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#20
Posted 2007-December-26, 08:17
South would super-accept with five assured covers.
The late 4♠ call does not change that need.
So, South only goes if KJ10x in a side suit provides two covers in his estimation. I'm not sure that this is a good decision.
Adding 3OM (3♥) to allow further consideration does help slightly. When Opener bids 3♠, rather than 4♠, he is showing something worthwhile.
-P.J. Painter.

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