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In Lawrence's "Balancing" book, he discusses the sequence:
1x - pass - pass - 2x
not as Michaels, but as an unknown two-suiter. He doesn't talk about the follow-ups much either.
I have never heard of anyone else advocating this. Does anyone play it?
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Posted 2007-December-22, 11:29
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Posted 2007-December-22, 11:39
Never heard of it. Makes some sense since you are likely to have time to describe your hand once one opponent shows great weakness by passing his partner's opening 1 bid.
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Posted 2007-December-22, 12:02
pclayton, on Dec 22 2007, 12:29 PM, said:
In Lawrence's "Balancing" book, he discusses the sequence:
1x - pass - pass - 2x
not as Michaels, but as an unknown two-suiter. He doesn't talk about the follow-ups much either.
I have never heard of anyone else advocating this. Does anyone play it?
1x - pass - pass - 2x
not as Michaels, but as an unknown two-suiter. He doesn't talk about the follow-ups much either.
I have never heard of anyone else advocating this. Does anyone play it?
That's the only place I've seen it too. I just assumed the book was old fashioned, it's not the only place it shows itself to be out of date after all.
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Posted 2007-December-22, 12:08
I have seen it advocated by a significant minority in master solvers (I forget which hand it was, it was several years ago). I also had it advocated by a lot of people when I gave them a huge 6-6 black hand with the auction going 1D p p (from an old national).
To me it makes a lot of sense and is superior, but I don't play it with anyone.
To me it makes a lot of sense and is superior, but I don't play it with anyone.
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According to the SAYC test www.firesides.net/sayctest.htm it is a good hand with a void in opps suit, the idea presumably being that you overrule p's t/o double.
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Posted 2007-December-22, 12:21
No, but it certainly makes sense.
The reason most likely is, that you dont
have the unusal 2 NT available.
And if you dont want to double with strong
2-suiters, which is certainly not the best thing
to do, you need the cue bid to be an arbitary
2-suiter.
As far as I know, this meaning of the cue bid
is also part of the french standard system.
With kind regards
Marlowe
The reason most likely is, that you dont
have the unusal 2 NT available.
And if you dont want to double with strong
2-suiters, which is certainly not the best thing
to do, you need the cue bid to be an arbitary
2-suiter.
As far as I know, this meaning of the cue bid
is also part of the french standard system.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2007-December-22, 14:04
The mystery is the continuations. Matt and I have talked about 2N as "bid the suit you don't have".
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Posted 2007-December-23, 07:06
pclayton, on Dec 22 2007, 03:04 PM, said:
The mystery is the continuations. Matt and I have talked about 2N as "bid the suit you don't have".
Hi,
another option would be to bid up the line.
As long as the cue is game forcing, this
should work reasonable well.
Another option is to look for continuations
after a 2NT overcall, which shows an
arbitary 2-suiter, maybe you have more
luck.
With kind regards
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Posted 2007-December-26, 15:13
pclayton, on Dec 22 2007, 05:29 PM, said:
I have never heard of anyone else advocating this. Does anyone play it?
Me neither
and
No.
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Posted 2007-December-27, 23:29
I didnt have any followed up. I would assume that leaping michaels (but after 1 level) are on also.
(1D)---p-----(p)------???
2D= unknown 2 suiter
3D= ask for a stop (long clubs)
4C= C+M
4D= both M
(1D)---p-----(p)------???
2D= unknown 2 suiter
3D= ask for a stop (long clubs)
4C= C+M
4D= both M
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