[microcap]

You are playing IMP teams as usual, and the auction proceeds as follows [both sides vulnerable]. You are sitting 4th hand and you hold:

Scoring: IMP

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The auction proceeds: LHO opens 1♦, partner overcalls 1♠, RHO bids 2♣. You bid 2♦ as a spade limit raise or better. Partnership overcall range is 7-16 HCP.

LHO doubles your 2♦, partner passes, RHO passes, and now back to you.

What is your bid?

[gwnn]

2♥, natural?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

2D gurantees a fit?

One usual meaning of the Cue is, that
it either promises inv.+ values with fit
or a game forcing hand.

2S.

But a matter of partnership agreement,
does pass show min. or does it promise
more than min.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: Of course a 3H bid instead of the 2D cue
would have been nice, and if available, it
would have been better.

[P_Marlowe]

gwnn, on Dec 20 2007, 03:53 AM, said:

2♥, natural?

and game forcing?

[Fluffy]

2♥ stands out. Keep it simple

[gwnn]

P_Marlowe, on Dec 20 2007, 11:05 AM, said:

gwnn, on Dec 20 2007, 03:53 AM, said:

2♥, natural?

and game forcing?

why would it be game forcing?

[rogerclee]

I like 3S to

1) strongly invite game opposite a sound overcall. I don't expect this to be the case, but hey, you never know.
2) shut the opponents out of their probable minor fit.

3H accomplishes this too. It might be better.

[whereagles]

Would have bid 3♥ the round before. Why not doing that now?

[P_Marlowe]

gwnn, on Dec 20 2007, 04:47 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Dec 20 2007, 11:05 AM, said:

gwnn, on Dec 20 2007, 03:53 AM, said:

2♥, natural?

and game forcing?

why would it be game forcing?

As I have already said elsewhere, a matter of
partnership agreement.

But usually the cue shows either a hand with inv.+
values and fit or a strong game forcing hand.

Bidding 2H instead of the cue bid may have just
been nonforcing, although constructive.
In which case, the question arises, what do you do
with a strong hand with hearts?

One way of doing this, is to make the cue followed
by bidding ons own suit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Codo]

How much easier will it be for pd to judge whether to bid 4 Spade or not if I now bid 2 or 3 Heart?
Anyway, I am going to bid 3 Spade now, knowing that this could be an underbid.

[nick_s]

If you're playing fit-jumps, then you should have bid 3♥ on the round before. If you're not, then you get problems like this one . I suppose I bid 2♥ forcing now, planning to follow with 3♠ over partner's 2♠.

[jdonn]

nick_s, on Dec 20 2007, 10:37 AM, said:

If you're playing fit-jumps, then you should have bid 3♥ on the round before. If you're not, then you get problems like this one . I suppose I bid 2♥ forcing now, planning to follow with 3♠ over partner's 2♠.

I think a fit jump is a very bad bid with no honor in partner's suit, it should be more descriptive than that. What is wrong with 2♥ now, then supporting partner at whatever level you want next round? Most play partner's pass over 2♦ denies a bare minimum (I do anyway) so I intend to game force.

[Apollo81]

I'd bid 2♥ intending to invite one more time if I had no agreements about this auction. If I was playing the agreement Josh mentioned where pass denies a bare minimum then I would just bid 4♠

[han]

I'd bid 3H now.

[jdonn]

I think 3♥ now is more of a suggestion to play in hearts like Qxx KQTxxx in majors. Though I admit of course you can overrule partner anyway, so I guess I don't see any harm. Unless partner tanks then bids 4♥...

[mike777]

microcap, on Dec 20 2007, 03:42 AM, said:

You are playing IMP teams as usual, and the auction proceeds as follows [both sides vulnerable].    You are sitting 4th hand and you hold:

<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> West </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> Both </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> 10754 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> AK1062 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> A6 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> 42 </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->

The auction proceeds:  LHO opens 1♦, partner overcalls 1♠, RHO bids 2♣.  You bid 2♦ as a spade limit raise or better.   Partnership overcall range is 7-16 HCP.

LHO doubles your 2♦, partner passes, RHO passes, and now back to you.

What is your bid?

Wow alot of wide ranging responses for what I thought was a wtp?
Partner bid one spade vul.

2D on the way to bidding 4spades next wtp? I never considered bidding less.
13 support points
3 QT
4 card support
Good side 5 card suit
ruffing values.

[ArtK78]

mike777, on Dec 20 2007, 01:34 PM, said:

Wow alot of wide ranging responses for what I thought was a wtp? 
Partner bid one spade vul.

2D on the way to bidding 4spades next wtp? I never considered bidding less.
13 support points
3 QT
4 card support
Good side 5 card suit
ruffing values.

If you look at the companion post to this one and see that a majority of posters thought that AKxxx xxx xx xxx was good enough to overcall vul at IMPs, then you might not feel that this hand is a clear game force.

Personally, I don't think it is a clear game force, but a very strong game try. But then I would not have overcalled on AKxxx and out.