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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2007-December-08, 19:09

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(4♦)-?-(ps)-5♣
(ps)-ps-(dbl)-ps
(ps)-?

Would you pass both times?
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Posted 2007-December-08, 19:28

I think I would bid 4♠ and then 5♥ over 5♣, but a bit biased knowing how partner would reopen, passing 4♦ is also reasonable.
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Posted 2007-December-08, 22:31

The hand could belong to anyone. I can't keep quiet here. If we have a major fit, this is a 5-loser hand. We could easily be cold for a slam. I would bid 5♦ over 4♦ expecting partner to interpret it as a two suiter.

And if partner winds up doubling the opponents, I do have some defense.
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Posted 2007-December-08, 23:13

I'm bidding 4 spades, and bidding 5 hearts over 5 clubs or 5DX. I expect that bidding the first time is the only way that I can play this hand in 4 of a major, since there's no way that partner has a takeout double of diamonds without the preempt going up a notch. This hand's not going to get easier to bid at the 5 level.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 00:49

4N intending to convert 5♣ to 5♥ to show my suits might work, but pesky partners tend to bid something else cos they have lots of point and lots of clubs thinking (not unreasonably) I have ♥+♣. Suppose i'll bid 4♠ and end in a no play slam, heck I do have 2 Keycards and a void! If I did pass to start would bid 5♦ when 5♣ is doubled unless pard is a corpse. (If LHO doubles 4♠ and partner re-doubles I might start searching for a card with 4 X's on it)
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Posted 2007-December-09, 05:31

If I pass the first two times, it's easy to bid 5D over 5Cx.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 05:41

FrancesHinden, on Dec 9 2007, 07:31 PM, said:

If I pass the first two times, it's easy to bid 5D over 5Cx.

Interesting, i did exactly the same at the table. Partner was 1-1-3-8, that's why i thought it was freak.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 06:49

4S first because I just don't think you can pass with this. What to do when 5C gets cracked is a matter of table feel, i'd probably usually run to 5H.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 08:46

4♠ first for me and then if need be 5♥ and I don't expect to be sitting for 5♣x here in most circumstances (ie my usual adv/exp pickup games in MBC).

Honestly I wouldn't dream of passing the first time.

An initial 5♦ call is interesting since I don't expect to buy this hand very often in 4♠ but I'd like to have more than 1 defensive trick for 5♦.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 12:32

4S immediately.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 13:35

4♠ and then 5♥.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 14:18

Pass 1st round was ok to me. Can live with 4♠, though. Now 5♦.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 14:43

I have to admit I'd bid 5♦ the first round. Obviously this is a disaster when partner is 1138 ;) Obviously though on rosier days we can find slams very light in HCP this way. I mean it's not as though playing 5 of our better major rates to be more dangerous than playing 4 of a random major, and since there is no way I'm passing...
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Posted 2007-December-12, 07:26

Clear pass first turn. (second turn too easy pass)

Bidding 3H insufficient bid corrected to 4S is the only time ill be bidding with these kind of hands :)

Bidding 4S will mostly lead to terrible slam or 5 level contracts.

After the X I guess ill be running.
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Posted 2007-December-12, 11:14

neilkaz, on Dec 9 2007, 06:46 AM, said:

4♠ first for me and then if need be 5♥ and I don't expect to be sitting for 5♣x here in most circumstances (ie my usual adv/exp pickup games in MBC).

Honestly I wouldn't dream of passing the first time.

An initial 5♦ call is interesting since I don't expect to buy this hand very often in 4♠ but I'd like to have more than 1 defensive trick for 5♦.

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Posted 2007-December-14, 00:34

Pass first up.
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