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Posted 2007-December-08, 19:09
Would you pass both times?
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Posted 2007-December-08, 19:28
I think I would bid 4♠ and then 5♥ over 5♣, but a bit biased knowing how partner would reopen, passing 4♦ is also reasonable.
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Posted 2007-December-08, 22:31
The hand could belong to anyone. I can't keep quiet here. If we have a major fit, this is a 5-loser hand. We could easily be cold for a slam. I would bid 5♦ over 4♦ expecting partner to interpret it as a two suiter.
And if partner winds up doubling the opponents, I do have some defense.
And if partner winds up doubling the opponents, I do have some defense.
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Posted 2007-December-08, 23:13
I'm bidding 4 spades, and bidding 5 hearts over 5 clubs or 5DX. I expect that bidding the first time is the only way that I can play this hand in 4 of a major, since there's no way that partner has a takeout double of diamonds without the preempt going up a notch. This hand's not going to get easier to bid at the 5 level.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 00:49
4N intending to convert 5♣ to 5♥ to show my suits might work, but pesky partners tend to bid something else cos they have lots of point and lots of clubs thinking (not unreasonably) I have ♥+♣. Suppose i'll bid 4♠ and end in a no play slam, heck I do have 2 Keycards and a void! If I did pass to start would bid 5♦ when 5♣ is doubled unless pard is a corpse. (If LHO doubles 4♠ and partner re-doubles I might start searching for a card with 4 X's on it)
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Posted 2007-December-09, 05:31
If I pass the first two times, it's easy to bid 5D over 5Cx.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 05:41
FrancesHinden, on Dec 9 2007, 07:31 PM, said:
If I pass the first two times, it's easy to bid 5D over 5Cx.
Interesting, i did exactly the same at the table. Partner was 1-1-3-8, that's why i thought it was freak.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 06:49
4S first because I just don't think you can pass with this. What to do when 5C gets cracked is a matter of table feel, i'd probably usually run to 5H.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 08:46
4♠ first for me and then if need be 5♥ and I don't expect to be sitting for 5♣x here in most circumstances (ie my usual adv/exp pickup games in MBC).
Honestly I wouldn't dream of passing the first time.
An initial 5♦ call is interesting since I don't expect to buy this hand very often in 4♠ but I'd like to have more than 1 defensive trick for 5♦.
Honestly I wouldn't dream of passing the first time.
An initial 5♦ call is interesting since I don't expect to buy this hand very often in 4♠ but I'd like to have more than 1 defensive trick for 5♦.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 12:32
4S immediately.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 13:35
4♠ and then 5♥.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 14:18
Pass 1st round was ok to me. Can live with 4♠, though. Now 5♦.
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Posted 2007-December-09, 14:43
I have to admit I'd bid 5♦ the first round. Obviously this is a disaster when partner is 1138 
Obviously though on rosier days we can find slams very light in HCP this way. I mean it's not as though playing 5 of our better major rates to be more dangerous than playing 4 of a random major, and since there is no way I'm passing...
Obviously though on rosier days we can find slams very light in HCP this way. I mean it's not as though playing 5 of our better major rates to be more dangerous than playing 4 of a random major, and since there is no way I'm passing...
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Posted 2007-December-12, 07:26
Clear pass first turn. (second turn too easy pass)
Bidding 3H insufficient bid corrected to 4S is the only time ill be bidding with these kind of hands
Bidding 4S will mostly lead to terrible slam or 5 level contracts.
After the X I guess ill be running.
Bidding 3H insufficient bid corrected to 4S is the only time ill be bidding with these kind of hands
Bidding 4S will mostly lead to terrible slam or 5 level contracts.
After the X I guess ill be running.
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Posted 2007-December-12, 11:14
neilkaz, on Dec 9 2007, 06:46 AM, said:
4♠ first for me and then if need be 5♥ and I don't expect to be sitting for 5♣x here in most circumstances (ie my usual adv/exp pickup games in MBC).
Honestly I wouldn't dream of passing the first time.
An initial 5♦ call is interesting since I don't expect to buy this hand very often in 4♠ but I'd like to have more than 1 defensive trick for 5♦.
Honestly I wouldn't dream of passing the first time.
An initial 5♦ call is interesting since I don't expect to buy this hand very often in 4♠ but I'd like to have more than 1 defensive trick for 5♦.
Echo that.
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Posted 2007-December-14, 00:34
Pass first up.
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