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1. Would you pass also on first seat?
2. If you passed, would you call 4♠ now?
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Is this a 4S over 4H?
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Posted 2007-December-06, 07:07
1. Would you pass also on first seat?
2. If you passed, would you call 4♠ now?
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Posted 2007-December-06, 07:09
I would open under these circumstances, if 1♠ does not conform to our style it would be 2♠.
4♠ now.
4♠ now.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 07:37
I'd pass because pard, who's short on hearts, didn't dbl. So he's broke.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 08:04
Hi,
#1 I would open 2S.
#2 No.
With kind regards
Marlowe
#1 I would open 2S.
#2 No.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2007-December-06, 09:15
Just because pard didn't double a vul 4♥ opening when he rates to be short in hearts doesn't mean he is broke. And we don't have to make 4♠ to come out ahead on this auction.
I bid 4♠ now.
Of course, I would not have passed in first seat. But that is not the issue.
I bid 4♠ now.
Of course, I would not have passed in first seat. But that is not the issue.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 09:42
ArtK78, on Dec 6 2007, 03:15 PM, said:
Of course, I would not have passed in first seat. But that is not the issue.
Actually, it is an issue. If you had opened, you could now pass without a qualm.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 10:49
whereagles, on Dec 6 2007, 10:42 AM, said:
ArtK78, on Dec 6 2007, 03:15 PM, said:
Of course, I would not have passed in first seat. But that is not the issue.
Actually, it is an issue. If you had opened, you could now pass without a qualm.
Who took my qualm?
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Posted 2007-December-06, 11:10
I like 4♠ now, high risk high reward but I think it rates to work out. Also I don't mind passing to begin with since usually you can overcall spades at a low level next round, but if I must open then I much prefer 2 to 1. I am not so much into 5 card weak two bids as I used to be, I think it often makes it too hard for partner to judge where to play when it's our hand.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 13:44
reminds me of my unfavorable adventure
2♥(5-5)-p-3♥-p
4♥-p-p-4♠
+790 and 4♥ was an easy make (and yes, my hand was worth 3♠)
I'd try 4♠ here also, but I'm not that confident.
2♥(5-5)-p-3♥-p
4♥-p-p-4♠
+790 and 4♥ was an easy make (and yes, my hand was worth 3♠)
I'd try 4♠ here also, but I'm not that confident.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 13:51
With three baby hearts... color me yellow, err... actually green. I'm using that card because there's no yellow card in my box.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 13:53
I open this hand 2♠ which I feel actually preempts decently. But I don't mind a 1♠ opening either, but certainly dislike the initial pass.
At these colors after passing initially I have a slight preference to bid 4♠, but would pass at any other colors.
At these colors after passing initially I have a slight preference to bid 4♠, but would pass at any other colors.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 13:59
Somebody's short in hearts, and pard didn't double. I'm passing, and wondering why I didn't open initially.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 14:16
Clear 2S opening. Bidding 4S is bad. At Mp hoping for -500 or -300 is a good gamble but at imps its a dubious tactics. Do you really think a double swing game is possible ?
Chance for making a phantom sac are more likely then finding a super cheap save. Here are possible result.
they make game
we are -4 = -5 ***
we are -3 = +3 ***
we are -2 = +8 or (+11) **
we are -1 = +11 *
they dont make game.
we are -3 = -12 *
we are -2 = -9 (-5) **
we are -1 = -5 (-4) ***
()= they dont X us.
Its possible we are down 2 and they dont X us. But its also possible that they go down more then 1 (vulnerable undertricks) or that they bid 5H anyway and make it. Also it wouldnt suprised me that S break really badly and we go down 5. Or that they dont make game and we are -4.
*** = more frequent
** = less frequent
* = rare
Chance for making a phantom sac are more likely then finding a super cheap save. Here are possible result.
they make game
we are -4 = -5 ***
we are -3 = +3 ***
we are -2 = +8 or (+11) **
we are -1 = +11 *
they dont make game.
we are -3 = -12 *
we are -2 = -9 (-5) **
we are -1 = -5 (-4) ***
()= they dont X us.
Its possible we are down 2 and they dont X us. But its also possible that they go down more then 1 (vulnerable undertricks) or that they bid 5H anyway and make it. Also it wouldnt suprised me that S break really badly and we go down 5. Or that they dont make game and we are -4.
*** = more frequent
** = less frequent
* = rare
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2007-December-06, 14:19
I go active when I have to choose between active and passive. 4♠ it will be. I don't mind the initial pass. It's not quite good enough for 1♠ in my view, and 2♠ has too many flaws.
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Posted 2007-December-06, 15:36
I agree with Helene.
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