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We talked about this kinda thing before
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Posted 2007-November-29, 22:45
What's your call?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-November-29, 22:56
"We talked about this kinda thing before"
Yes, I know. Still I am bidding 6C.
Yes, I know. Still I am bidding 6C.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2007-November-29, 23:23
The_Hog, on Nov 29 2007, 11:56 PM, said:
"We talked about this kinda thing before"
Yes, I know.
Yes, I know.
I didn't mean to suggest that I know the right answer, otherwise I wouldn't post it.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-November-29, 23:56
Hannie, on Nov 30 2007, 12:23 PM, said:
The_Hog, on Nov 29 2007, 11:56 PM, said:
"We talked about this kinda thing before"
Yes, I know.
Yes, I know.
I didn't mean to suggest that I know the right answer, otherwise I wouldn't post it.
No I didn't mean that either. What I meant was that some will bid 6 and say wtp and others will pass and say wtp. I am in the 6 camp.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 01:05
Everyone has their cutoff somewhere. In fact I say this is very close (the 5 level is way different than the 4 level.) Pass for me. My rule is I don't bid slam on these unless I would be very surprised to see it go down, and here I wouldn't be.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 01:09
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No I didn't mean that either. What I meant was that some will bid 6 and say wtp and others will pass and say wtp. I am in the 6 camp.
Those who pass and say wtp. Should stay away from IMPs.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2007-November-30, 01:36
5 1/2 clubs wtp?
I bid 6, this had be wrong so often, it most be successful sometimes.
I bid 6, this had be wrong so often, it most be successful sometimes.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 02:07
Hi,
6C.
Given my 3 Hearts, partner will surely
have a Singelton at most, and Chances
are great that he has the Ace of Clubs,
i.e. 6C will have play most of the time,
and be quite often cold.
And maybe the Opening leader is looking
at an void in Hearts.
Change the Heart holding, remove an X
putting it into Spades or Diamonds, and
I would most likely pass.
With kind regards
Marlowe
6C.
Given my 3 Hearts, partner will surely
have a Singelton at most, and Chances
are great that he has the Ace of Clubs,
i.e. 6C will have play most of the time,
and be quite often cold.
And maybe the Opening leader is looking
at an void in Hearts.
Change the Heart holding, remove an X
putting it into Spades or Diamonds, and
I would most likely pass.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-November-30, 02:27
I agree with Josh that this is very close. I'm not giving my partner just as much leeway for a 5♣ overcall as I do with a 4♠ overcall (or a 4M opening). I'm in the 6♣ camp.
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2007-November-30, 02:43
6♣
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
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Posted 2007-November-30, 04:25
6♣ and I don't think it's close. For heaven's sake, it have a totally unexpected MONSTER. More worried of missing 7 than going down in 6.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 06:55
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Change the Heart holding, remove an X
putting it into Spades or Diamonds, and
I would most likely pass.
putting it into Spades or Diamonds, and
I would most likely pass.
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I agree with Josh that this is very close. I'm not giving my partner just as much leeway for a 5♣ overcall as I do with a 4♠ overcall (or a 4M opening). I'm in the 6♣ camp.
Its IMPs, to even think about passing is 100% nonsense.
Ill make 7 much more often then ill go down in 6.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2007-November-30, 06:57
6♣, hoping clubs make an even number of tricks 
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 07:22
Yup, bidding feels right. As others have said, a bid at the five-level is quite different from one at the four-level.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 09:50
6C
I feel I have to, but I don't feel particularly confident. I wouldn't think partner owed me much if he had AK to seven and King of hearts.
I feel I have to, but I don't feel particularly confident. I wouldn't think partner owed me much if he had AK to seven and King of hearts.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 10:03
benlessard, on Nov 30 2007, 02:09 AM, said:
Those who pass and say wtp. Should stay away from IMPs.
I don't understand the logic of this....
If 5 clubs makes exactly, and 6 clubs goes down 1, you gain 450 points by stopping.
If 6 clubs makes, you gain 500 points by bidding.
Why does the method of scoring matter?
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Posted 2007-November-30, 11:11
I'm not saying bidding slam is wrong (I still think it's very close either way.) But it's easy to be enamored with how good our hand is and and be distracted from how terrible our holdings in hearts and clubs are. I would sooner bid 7 with Axxxx x Axxxx Jx than 6 with the current hand. To see why, wait for the singleton heart lead when partner has KQx x xx AKQxxxx (I know that doesn't make 7 opposite my example. That is not my point...)
Maybe bidding 6 is right anyway, I won't get into an argument about it since I don't feel that strongly. But with such terrible breaks, it's not as trivial as some posters indicate.
Maybe bidding 6 is right anyway, I won't get into an argument about it since I don't feel that strongly. But with such terrible breaks, it's not as trivial as some posters indicate.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 11:49
Partner had xx - J10xx AKQJxxx, 6 is laydown.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 13:27
Hannie, on Nov 30 2007, 05:45 AM, said:
Scoring: IMP
(4H)-5C-(p) - ?
(4H)-5C-(p) - ?
What's your call?
Clear 7♦ bid.
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Posted 2007-November-30, 18:15
The deciding factor for me is the third heart. If hearts are eight long in lefty (likely) bidding 6 only loses if hearts are 1-1 and pard doesnt have the Ace AND has non-solid trumps.
I'll gamble my 4-5 winners cover pards or we have a squeeze.
I'll gamble my 4-5 winners cover pards or we have a squeeze.
"Phil" on BBO
(4H)-5C-(p) - ?