[firmit]

♠ Q95
♥ AQJT52
♦ 5
♣ AK9

(p)-1♥-(p)-2♦
(2♠!) - ?

Now what.... What is your bid and reasoning?

Added: 2 over 1 almost GF - rebidding minor NF.
None vul

[P_Marlowe]

2D was?

Do you play 2/1 game force or just
American Standard with 2/1 promising
a rebid, or is a 2/1 response just a
one round force?

Playing American Standard, I would try
to create a game forcing auction, showing
6 hearts, i.e. depending on your agreements either

#1 pass (forcing), followed by 3H
#2 bid 3H direct, which is forcing, because you
play good-bad 2NT by opener, ... a direct 3H
bid may even be forcing, if not playing good-bad

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

If 2♦ was GF: 3♥

If 2♦ was F1: 4♥

[Codo]

3 ♥ and I don´t care much about 2/1 or SAYC.

For me 3 HEart shows an extra heart and some extra strength and is game forcing. But there is no need to rush to 4 HEart. Maybe pd has a hand where 3 NT plays even better, so I give him a possibility to play that contract.

If you play that 3 Heart now is weak, I must pass and bid 3 HEart later.

[Dwingo]

What's the Vulnerabilty?

[brianshark]

I think I'll pass and see what partner has to say.

[ArtK78]

Pass and await developments.

[hrothgar]

Regardless of whether or not the 2♦ established an absolute game force, I think that a pass over 2♠ should be forcing.

LHO's 2♠ is a nuisance call. He's a passd hand. He couldn't open 1♠. He couldn't open 2♠. He's not sitting on that much. Given the crap that people intervene on these days, we might even want to defend 2♠ doubled. I wouldn't be suprised to find LHO sitting on some crappy 5332 with a couple Spade honors.

Give partner a 3=1=6=3 or some such such and we might easily collect +800.

I'm passing

[firmit]

Quote

Pass

Pass is forcing, no doubt, but what would a DBL by opener show?
What does partner show by DBL your forcing-pass?

[P_Marlowe]

firmit, on Nov 21 2007, 11:48 AM, said:

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Pass

Pass is forcing, no doubt, but what would a DBL by opener show?
What does partner show by DBL your forcing-pass?

Double by opener, instead of making
the forcing pass is penalty.
Assuming Opener passes, that says,
I am not sure, if we do better defening
or if we better look at our own contract.
If Opener removes responders double,
he shows additional strength.

In contrast double by repsonder is not
a pure penalty, just that he thinks going
after the penalty is best.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jdeegan]

3NT. Good problem. To see its solution, consider the following points:

1. Q9x in spades is almost a sure stopper if you play the hand - even when LHO has ace or king third, the suit blocks.
2. Your 16 HCP are opposite partner's advertised 10+ HCP, so the high card values for game are there.
3. All suits are stopped
4. The odds greatly favor that either partner or RHO holds the ♥ king
5. One spade, six hearts and the AK of clubs are nine likely looking tricks in 3NT. You may also have a diamond trick or two

Don't risk things getting out of control. Just bid 3NT. If pard is unusually strong or unusually weak for his bidding, then he will bid something, and you will find an escape route.

[mike777]

jdeegan, on Nov 26 2007, 02:06 AM, said:

3NT.  Good problem.  To see its solution, consider the following points:

1. Q9x in spades is almost a sure stopper if you play the hand - even when LHO has ace or king third, the suit blocks.
2. Your 16 HCP are opposite partner's advertised 10+ HCP, so the high card values for game are there.
3. All suits are stopped
4. The odds greatly favor that either partner or RHO holds the ♥ king
5. One spade, six hearts and the AK of clubs are nine likely looking tricks in 3NT.  You may also have a diamond trick or two

Don't risk things getting out of control.  Just bid 3NT.  If pard is unusually strong or unusually weak for his bidding, then he will bid something, and you will find an escape route.

/What?


I can understand 3H or pass......anything else insane.

In real life i bid 3H......2d shows a huge hand..not nothing...

If not than insane..

[joker_gib]

Codo, on Nov 21 2007, 12:28 PM, said:

3 ♥ and I don´t care much about 2/1 or SAYC.

For me 3 HEart shows an extra heart and some extra strength and is game forcing. But there is no need to rush to 4 HEart. Maybe pd has a hand where 3 NT plays even better, so I give him a possibility to play that contract.

Agree with this ! 3♥

[beatrix45]

I don't feel very strongly about any of the possible bids. I looks like we have game, and it is going to be hard to catch them in 2♠ doubled if that happens to be right. Could you give us the whole hand? I am curious about what actually happened.