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#1 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2007-November-14, 07:52

Scoring: IMP

(1♠)-P-(P)-2♥
(P)-?


(1) What is your call?
(2) What kind of hand do you expect partner to hold?
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Posted 2007-November-14, 08:00

1. I pass

2. If I had to make a guess as to partner's hand, I'd expect roughly 14 HCP with either 3=6=1=3, 3=6=2=2, or 3=5=1=4 shape
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Posted 2007-November-14, 08:19

According to the principle of the deferred king, a balancing overcall is a king weaker than a direct-seat overcall. Assume 9-14 points. Pass.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 08:25

I am so passing... If game makes, probably partner should have overcalled 3♥ instead.

What hand does partner have?

12 HCP, 6♥, and probably 3♠ opposite my 3.

Heck, I'm glad if he makes 2♥.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 09:45

obvious pass wtp?
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Posted 2007-November-14, 10:05

Pass, someone is making a mistake but it's not me...

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2007-November-14, 10:21

Partner has a hand where he expects that if I have a bit of help for him then he can probably make 2H. Beyond that, it's a guess as to what he has. I have what he hopes for, maybe a tad more in heart length, a tad less in points or shape. I pass. Now if lho bids 2S, passed back to me, I'll have to think again. I think I will leave sleeping dogs lie.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 10:22

Easiest pass ever with a flat 7 count.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 10:40

This is a normal pass, what's the catch?
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Posted 2007-November-14, 10:54

Obvious pass. If you say made the diamond queen into the ace I would have a normal minimum 3♥ bid.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 11:03

Pass. Obvious to me too.

For a 2♥ balance, I expect 8-14 or so.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 11:17

I might raise with an extra ace. Maybe.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 11:34

brianshark, on Nov 14 2007, 07:17 PM, said:

I might raise with an extra ace. Maybe.

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Posted 2007-November-14, 11:52

Yes, obvious pass, 2♥ might make.
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Posted 2007-November-14, 13:13

Thanks to all. I thought it might have been me who had lost his mind.

My partner raised to 3♥ holding that hand. I held:

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Now whether I should bid 4♥ is certainly problematic even after a raise. The two black Qx's are certainly not pulling their weight. But I though that overall I had a pretty good hand for a balancing 2♥ call so I took the plunge.

The opponents' misdefense (AK and another spade) was counterbalanced by a 4-1 heart break, so I went down 2 tricks for -200 at IMPs. Amazingly enough, the result was +1.0 IMPs on the hand, as they are cold for 10 tricks in spades with careful play (LHO was AKxxx JTxx -- AJTx).
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Posted 2007-November-14, 13:25

Bidding 4♥ looks OK to me after a raise. If pard has another big card: Jxx Axx, Qxxx, Axx, game looks pretty good to me. I might raise on Jxx AQx Qxxx xxx as well. 3N is looking possible now. Even if they lead a high club, they might not be able to read the position and cash out.

There are other mundane hand types where bidding game makes sense:

Axx, Axxx, xx, Jxxx,

Kxx, xxxx, Qx, Axxx,

xxx, Axxx, xx, AJxx

for instance.
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