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open what?

Poll: your opening first position (42 member(s) have cast votes)

your opening first position

  1. pass (23 votes [54.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 54.76%

  2. 1 heart (1 votes [2.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

  3. 1 spade (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2 diamonds (majors weak) (10 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  5. 2 hearts (5 votes [11.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.90%

  6. 3 hearts (3 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  7. 4 hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#21 User is offline   Codo 

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Posted 2007-November-13, 02:21

There are hands which fit into a system bid but you still decide not to use it.

But opposite to the majority, I would choose 2 Diamond with this hand and maybe I have a chance for a rebid to show the extra shape later.

For the idea that 2 Diamond shows 4/4: I played that and did not like it. Yes you can use the preempt a lot, but you get hammered too often and you sometimes play in the wrong partial. I strongly prefer 5/4, even if this is much less frequent.

For the idea that 2 Diamond is better then 2 Heart: This is nonsense. You give (like multi) the opponents two possibilities to bid instead of one which makes it much easier for them.
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Posted 2007-November-13, 08:23

Here you have a pretty similar board from BB Shanghai 2007:
http://www.sarantako...7/2007-wtc.html, round 4, board 1

The bids:
Nystrom=pass
Brenner=2♥
L'Ecuyer=2♥ (majors 2 suiter, weak)
Bertens=Pass
Ahmadi=3♥
Gawrys=2♥ (55♥+other)
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Posted 2007-November-13, 13:21

Pass.
Even playing Ekrens 2♦ (which I quit playing ten years ago) I'd pass this hand.
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Posted 2007-November-13, 13:37

I agree with the 2♦ bidders. Ya, it's unfavorable, but it's also a red game. As long as the bidding isn't at the 5 level by the time it comes back to me, I'll be able to show this hand with a great deal of precision. Barring a horribly unlucky complete misfit, we'll get to a good spot.

I don't mind pass. If my first concern was risk-aversion (avoiding looking silly) I'd pass. It's my 2nd choice.

I prefer 4♥ to 3♥. You miss too many games with 3♥ and won't be able to get ♠ into the picture anyway, so while 2♥ makes some sense (you might get to bid 3♠ later,) I don't like 3♥ at all.
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