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Responding to a 3rd seat opener Whats your bid?

#1 User is offline   ArcLight 

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Posted 2007-November-10, 18:05

IMPs, Red on Red, 2/1

Pass - pass - 1 (by pard) - 2
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What do you bid holding:

Q x x x x
x x
x
K x x x x


3?
4?
Other? (what?)

[Note - pard may have a below strength hand to open in 3rd seat, do you cut him some slack?]
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Posted 2007-November-10, 18:09

4, just like the textbooks say.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 18:09

4D

I am a passed hand.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 18:28

4S
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Posted 2007-November-10, 18:54

4. Many ways to win.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 19:10

4 was the correct bid, because 4 makes (vulnerable).

Opps doubled us, down 2 for -500, which beats -620.

The reason I ask is this is opposite a THIRD seat opening bid, which may be weak.
I was wondering if you pull back a little opposite a potential weak 3rd seat opening bid.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 19:13

ArcLight, on Nov 10 2007, 07:10 PM, said:

4 was the correct bid, because 4 makes (vulnerable).

Opps doubled us, down 2 for -500, which beats -620.

The reason I ask is this is opposite a THIRD seat opening bid, which may be weak.
I was wondering if you pull back a little opposite a potential weak 3rd seat opening bid.

If partner opened a good 4-card suit in a hand below opening strength, then it still seems right to bid 4 over 4. We have a lot of shape after all.
So let's do it right away, maybe they bid on when both 4H and 4S were down.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 19:14

ArcLight, on Nov 10 2007, 08:10 PM, said:

4 was the correct bid, because 4 makes (vulnerable).

Opps doubled us, down 2 for -500, which beats -620.

The reason I ask is this is opposite a THIRD seat opening bid, which may be weak.
I was wondering if you pull back a little opposite a potential weak 3rd seat opening bid.

In general pulling back a little is good but here it would be a gigantic underbid to bid 3S.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 19:35

ArcLight, on Nov 10 2007, 08:10 PM, said:

4 was the correct bid, because 4 makes (vulnerable).

Opps doubled us, down 2 for -500, which beats -620.

The reason I ask is this is opposite a THIRD seat opening bid, which may be weak.
I was wondering if you pull back a little opposite a potential weak 3rd seat opening bid.

Maybe for a borderline decision, but don't let the fear of partner messing around in third seat keep you from playing normal bridge.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 22:28

4 all the way to pressure the opps and hope that they "guess" wrong.
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Posted 2007-November-11, 01:46

4 all day. The fact that partner might be understrenght just improves the odds for this being a winning bid.
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Posted 2007-November-11, 02:03

Yep, agree with Harald 4 it is.
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Posted 2007-November-11, 02:44

it is almost to strong for one of my 2 spade bids, but 4 spades it is
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Posted 2007-November-11, 03:36

4, got to be brave (and it can hardly go wrong)
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Posted 2007-November-12, 05:10

4S.

The same bid I would make, if he just
overcalled, and for me a overcall is weaker
than an opening bid.

The only question is, does he regular open
with 4 cards in 3rd seat?
If yes, 3S may be enough.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2007-November-12, 10:06

4
Alain
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