After a single raise of major suit, is opener's jump rebid in another suit splinter?
If that's splinter, how do you bid a hand with slam interest and good 2nd suit? I dont like such sequence: 1M-2M-3m-xx-4m.
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1M-2M-4m
#2
Posted 2007-November-09, 19:43
Why do you not like such a sequence? You can't have it all.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#3
Posted 2007-November-09, 20:02
splinter is the most important tool forward going to slam, giving it up is plain wrong.
#4
Posted 2007-November-09, 22:45
I'm not sure I follow the problem.
Suppose a specific auction start:
1♠-P-2♠-P-
3♣
I'm assuming, of course, that 3♣ is a natural GT, possibly a slam try.
Responder, if accepting the game try, need not simply blast game. There are other options for strong Responders.
1. 3-level calls below 3♠ are reciprocal game tries OR anticipatory cues.
2. Responder can cue 3NT, a "super-acceptance" of the new suit (high cover count for 2♠, 4-card support for the second suit). This allows Opener to show the slam interest and refocus the slam strain with a 4♣ call, asking for the precise cover count; four of the agreed major showing bare super-acceptance, bidding the slam with maximum internal covers, bidding a side cue with maximum covers if this King is a cover.
3. Responder can raise the new suit with five-card support an great covers.
4. Responder can eventually cue at the four-level and add in Last Train, possibly.
5. Opener can bid Last Train and Serious 3NT.
If Responder shows a weak hand (declines), Opener still can cue, show serious interest (3NT), or use Last Train, as needed.
If Responder bids 3♦, Opener can actually make a delayed heart splinter, offering nuance differences from a straight 4♥ splinter (the former suggesting a diamond control, as the latter "needs" one).
What? You don't play that?
Suppose a specific auction start:
1♠-P-2♠-P-
3♣
I'm assuming, of course, that 3♣ is a natural GT, possibly a slam try.
Responder, if accepting the game try, need not simply blast game. There are other options for strong Responders.
1. 3-level calls below 3♠ are reciprocal game tries OR anticipatory cues.
2. Responder can cue 3NT, a "super-acceptance" of the new suit (high cover count for 2♠, 4-card support for the second suit). This allows Opener to show the slam interest and refocus the slam strain with a 4♣ call, asking for the precise cover count; four of the agreed major showing bare super-acceptance, bidding the slam with maximum internal covers, bidding a side cue with maximum covers if this King is a cover.
3. Responder can raise the new suit with five-card support an great covers.
4. Responder can eventually cue at the four-level and add in Last Train, possibly.
5. Opener can bid Last Train and Serious 3NT.
If Responder shows a weak hand (declines), Opener still can cue, show serious interest (3NT), or use Last Train, as needed.
If Responder bids 3♦, Opener can actually make a delayed heart splinter, offering nuance differences from a straight 4♥ splinter (the former suggesting a diamond control, as the latter "needs" one).
What? You don't play that?
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#5
Posted 2007-November-10, 04:56
I play that opener:
- asks with 2NT.
- bid 4m is a void.
- bid 3x is 5-5, looking for low point game or slem interest
- asks with 2NT.
- bid 4m is a void.
- bid 3x is 5-5, looking for low point game or slem interest
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#6
Posted 2007-November-10, 05:44
cnszsun, on Nov 9 2007, 08:21 PM, said:
After a single raise of major suit, is opener's jump rebid in another suit splinter?
If that's splinter, how do you bid a hand with slam interest and good 2nd suit? I dont like such sequence: 1M-2M-3m-xx-4m.
If that's splinter, how do you bid a hand with slam interest and good 2nd suit? I dont like such sequence: 1M-2M-3m-xx-4m.
Depends on what kind of trial bids you
play.
If you play short suit trial bids, 4m would
show either void (fairly low frequence) or a
real suit (which would be my preference),
because 3m would show shortage.
I play long suit, so the jump is per default a
splinter, which keeps the memory laod at a
minimum.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#7
Posted 2007-November-10, 15:51
This depends on what game tries structure you adopt.
I prefer a jump in a new suit to show a big 2-suiter looking for slam. Many play it as a splinter; some that it shows a void, some allow a singleton.
I prefer a jump in a new suit to show a big 2-suiter looking for slam. Many play it as a splinter; some that it shows a void, some allow a singleton.
Kind regards,
Harald
Harald
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