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Poll: your take on this (38 member(s) have cast votes)

your take on this

  1. 3[he], wtp? (32 votes [84.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.21%

  2. 3[he], gulp (4 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  3. p, thinking is an overbid (2 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2007-November-09, 12:50

x
KQT98x
xxx
Axx

1♠-p-2♠-?

all white imp pairs
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Posted 2007-November-09, 14:12

3H, wtp.
I think that with the CK instead of the A, it would be a real minimum for me, though I suspect some people would bid with even less.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 14:20

Agree with 3H wtp. I would go so far as to say I am sure that passing with this hand is losing bridge.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 14:32

Jlall, on Nov 9 2007, 03:20 PM, said:

Agree with 3H wtp. I would go so far as to say I am sure that passing with this hand is losing bridge.

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Posted 2007-November-09, 14:38

Thinking is an underbid. Auto 3H.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 14:51

Jlall, on Nov 9 2007, 02:20 PM, said:

Agree with 3H wtp. I would go so far as to say I am sure that passing with this hand is losing bridge.

3♥ for me as well. Maybe it is our hand and I certainly want a ♥ lead most of the time.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 17:47

pclayton, on Nov 9 2007, 03:38 PM, said:

Thinking is an underbid. Auto 3H.

I disagree. Thinking is a psych.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 18:10

3H, I hope partner doesn't expect a much better hand. With this suit and spade shortness I certainly can't pass.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-09, 18:20

We just have to bid.
Partner knows that we might be light here.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 23:18

Isn't this the textbook OBAR hand? The one with shape pre-balances.

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Posted 2007-November-10, 02:29

Walddk, on Nov 10 2007, 06:18 AM, said:

Isn't this the textbook OBAR hand? The one with shape pre-balances.

Roland

Yes, time to enter the bidding now or it's finished ! ;)
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Posted 2007-November-10, 02:37

ok. just to generate some discussion:

would you bid 3♥ with the clubs replaced with:

Kxx
QJx
Qxx
xxx

?
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Posted 2007-November-10, 06:07

Walddk, on Nov 10 2007, 12:18 AM, said:

Isn't this the textbook OBAR hand? The one with shape pre-balances.

Roland

I am not 100% sure, but do you really
need 6 hearts for making the bid?

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Posted 2007-November-10, 07:39

3H this is easy.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 10:34

gwnn, on Nov 10 2007, 03:37 AM, said:

ok. just to generate some discussion:

would you bid 3♥ with the clubs replaced with:

Kxx
QJx
Qxx
xxx

?

yes, yes, yes(very marginal), no.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 10:35

gwnn, on Nov 10 2007, 03:37 AM, said:

ok. just to generate some discussion:

would you bid 3♥ with the clubs replaced with:

Kxx
QJx
Qxx
xxx

?

Yes
No
No
No

I don't play "OBAR" bids. But I will still stretch a little if needed.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 15:46

OBAR or NOBAR, this is a 3♥.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 15:46

jdonn, on Nov 10 2007, 04:35 PM, said:

I don't play "OBAR" bids. But I will still stretch a little if needed.

DOH! that's the definition of OBAR :)
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Posted 2007-November-10, 16:16

whereagles, on Nov 10 2007, 04:46 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 10 2007, 04:35 PM, said:

I don't play "OBAR" bids. But I will still stretch a little if needed.

DOH! that's the definition of OBAR :)

No it's not :P I would balance lighter than I would overcall directly, OBAR means you would do each the same.
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