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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2007-November-09, 04:20

How would you interpret these auctions playing 2/1 GF?

1 - 2 ;
2 - 2 ;
2NT - 3

AND

1 - 2 ;
2 - 2NT ;
3 - 3
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Posted 2007-November-09, 04:57

Let me guess:
The first one is 5-2-6-0.
The second one is 3-2-3-5.

I might be terribly wrong.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 07:14

The first:

With extra club length but not extra spade length, I'd bid 3.
With extra length in both black suits, I'd bid 3. However, I probably would not have started 2 with five spades, so that's a hesitant statement.
With a diamond frag, I'd bid 3.

3 is somewhat unusual contextually. IMO, this is a cheaper way to bid a quantitative 4NT.

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Posted 2007-November-09, 07:35

Gerben42, on Nov 9 2007, 05:20 AM, said:

How would you interpret these auctions playing 2/1 GF?

1 - 2; 2 - 2; 2N - 3

AND

1 - 2; 2 - 2N; 3 - 3

Assuming 2/1 GF,

1= Opener tends to be a minimum =2542 or =3541. Responder tends to be a minimum of =4315 with extras (hence the delayed raise.)

2= Opener is a minimum of =1543 unlimited in strength. Responder definitely has extras (else they would bid 3N and end the auction rather than 2N and prolong the conversation). Responder at a minimum has something like a 6- loser =3235 or =3226 15+ count. Responder does not have 3 card support.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 07:49

1. pattern out 4315 Slam interesst.

2. A or K of Heart, looking for 6 Club, need help in D.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 16:35

1. 2 denied 3c, so shoud be 4225 with Hx in and extra strength - a quantitative bid inviting slam.

2. Honour cuebid confirming 's - slam try.
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Posted 2007-November-10, 16:40

Both show Hx in hearts by responder and are simply continuing the investigation. In the first case 2 explicitly should deny heart support, and the 3 bid shows extras, can be 4225 or 4216 if the clubs aren't so great. In the second I don't see why it has to be a cuebid for clubs, it could just be looking for the best game.
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Posted 2007-November-11, 01:59

I agree with Josh, I would take both of these as strain suggestion (something like Hx support).
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Posted 2007-November-11, 17:23

The replies so far all seem to assume that 2 was NATURAL showing 4+ spades. That's certainly not how I play it... but how was it intended in your first auction? That affects all the possible meanings of subsequent auctions.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 13:28

agree that 3H is just Hx, looking for the best game.
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