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void in opps suit

Poll: act now or... (19 member(s) have cast votes)

act now or...

  1. p (3 votes [15.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

  2. X (2 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  3. 2S (14 votes [73.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.68%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2007-November-07, 10:28

Red/White MP partner deals and opens 1♦, 0+♦, 10-14 hcp, two/three suited hand, no 5cM.
RHO bids 2♣.

You hold

T87xxx
AJx
QJxx
void

What would you bid? 2♠ is forcing, other agreements are standard.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 10:34

I make a gross overbid of 2♠.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 11:00

dbl
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Posted 2007-November-07, 11:15

2S for sure, we have a void in their suit and a 6 card suit and must prepare for a competitive auction, get fits in early, blah blah, I feel like a broken record :)

Just bid your suits when you have a void in their suit on this auction and worry about things like 10+ points later.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 11:16

2S.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-07, 11:19

not quite sure why 2 spades is a gross overbid?
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Posted 2007-November-07, 11:22

It's a 2S bid even without the red jacks.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 11:53

2♠, and not a thought more. The void and six card suit upgrades nicely.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 16:03

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Posted 2007-November-07, 16:09

don't worry everyone, the pass was my vote:P I know I suck, but I really passed this one, and pd obviously passed. I can't remember his exact hand, but it was along the lines of a 4144 11 count I think where spades make 10 or 11 tricks and ♣'s are hard to be held to 8 tricks.
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Posted 2007-November-07, 20:44

So what's your call next time you have a similar hand Csaba?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-07, 23:49

pass, because it's bound to work some day ?
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Posted 2007-November-08, 02:17

I voted pass, so you are not allone :lol:
At the table I had choosen 2 ♠, this hands seems to fit great, who cares about HCPs.
And surely pass will work some day. Give pd a 1444 and lho AKQxx of spades. We all bite the dust. You will stand tall.
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Posted 2007-November-08, 02:24

Or a 1435 10-count which is possible in this system.

Still I think passing with a void in opps' suit when the board is likely to belong to us, is not good. If p has no spade support we will end in a non-ridicolous 3♦ often, I think.
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Posted 2007-November-08, 06:35

If I bid, I bid 2♠ which seems the most reasonnable action.
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Posted 2007-November-08, 07:12

X, what else?

We may discuss 2S if it is non forcing, but
since it is forcing, no-way I bid 2S, I would
rather pass.
Calling this suit a 6 carder is ...


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Posted 2007-November-08, 07:13

Jlall, on Nov 7 2007, 12:15 PM, said:

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Just bid your suits when you have a void in their suit on this auction and worry about things like 10+ points later.

I am not worried about points, my main concern
is suit quality.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2007-November-08, 07:34

I bid 2♠ now and try to get partner to change to a different system ASAP.
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Posted 2007-November-08, 07:48

I can see nothing to make me want to not bid 2S. I have an offensive hand type, it is very possible partner could, 1: pass a neg dble, 2: bid 2H leaving me poorly placed as I can never really get the potential of my hand across next.

Sometimes partners raise S, how bad can that be?
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Posted 2007-November-08, 15:10

Playing standard I'd have to overbid 2♠ here.
With one of my regulars we play transfers here and have an easy 2♥. :)
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