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A minor raise problem

#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2007-October-23, 00:13

Scoring: IMP

1-?

Partner opened 1, your call?
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Posted 2007-October-23, 01:05

Obviously this depends a lot on your methods. If I had a forcing raise of some kind I'd use it. If not, I'd bid 2C.
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Posted 2007-October-23, 02:22

2 followed by 3 should be OK. Starting with 2 won't bring in the scene the great clubs
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Posted 2007-October-23, 02:27

Edmunte1, on Oct 23 2007, 03:22 AM, said:

2 followed by 3 should be OK. Starting with 2 won't bring in the scene the great clubs

Do you really expect an uncontested auction?
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Posted 2007-October-23, 05:53

2 first and maybe 5 later (4N if pard takes that as "diams + better clubs")
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Posted 2007-October-23, 11:32

3 for me (=void), but then my 1 opening is non-standard, showing 4441 with a singleton , 5+ diamonds unbalanced or 18-19NT with 5c.
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Posted 2007-October-23, 11:52

I also like to splinter this one...
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Posted 2007-October-23, 12:11

skaeran, on Oct 23 2007, 09:32 AM, said:

3 for me (=void), but then my 1 opening is non-standard, showing 4441 with a singleton , 5+ diamonds unbalanced or 18-19NT with 5c.

Wow this sounds familiar :)
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  Posted 2007-October-25, 13:55

I like to play inverted minors, as it is very hard to give a forcing raise in a minor in standard bidding. I play it as forcing for one round in a regular partnership, and usually we will show strength looking for NT.

If partner bids 2 spades showing strength, I will use a splinter bid of 4 hearts and see what partner does, if he bids hearts showing strength or 2NT showing stoppers in both majors, I will bid clubs as a natural new suit bid. This would be an unusual auction because if I didn't have anything special and had clubs stopped I would just bid 3NT or pass according to strength.

Using standard methods, I guess I would use a splinter bid of 3 hearts and then bid clubs followed by a raise in diamonds and hope that partner could reevaluate his hand.

I probably won't get the chance to do all of this though as this will probably be a contested auction.

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Posted 2007-October-29, 09:11

2NT - game force with clubs (privilege of natural transfer system).
Later shows diamond support.
Pass is my lovely bid!
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Posted 2007-October-29, 09:18

Raivis, on Oct 29 2007, 07:11 AM, said:

2NT - game force with clubs (privilege of natural transfer system).
Later shows diamond support.

This is a privilege? :P
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Posted 2007-October-29, 09:31

Yeap, i'm think.
Contract played from right side (key cards placed in opener hand)
Hand not in trouble to 5 one of minor.
But opps in trouble - missed 4 in one of major.

Probably biddings:

1 - Pass - 2NT* - X - 3 ...

1 - Pass - 2NT* - X - 3 ...

1 - Pass - 2NT* - 3 - 4 ...

1 - Pass - 2NT* - 3 - 4 ...

1 - Pass - 2NT* - 3 - X ...

1 - Pass - 2NT* - 3 - 4 ...

1 - Pass - 2NT* - 3 - 4 ...

1 - Pass - 2NT* - 3 - X...

Partners in 2.round likely shows balance and suit preference ...
Pass is my lovely bid!
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