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Posted 2007-October-20, 04:20

Scoring: MP

(1♠) - Dbl - (P) - ?


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Posted 2007-October-20, 04:21

I'd bid 2.5♣.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 04:26

What would 2♠ be in this situation?
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Posted 2007-October-20, 06:03

XX would be nice.

I know that many would advocate 1 NT here which is right about shape and strength. With a strong hand, pd can ask for a stopper if he is interessted in 3 NT.

If you don´t feal combftable with that solution, try 2 Club.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 06:32

2♣. 2♠ would be this hand with a jack more, or such.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 07:23

2C, I'm too strong but what else?

Make the hand a tiny bit better and I'd bid 3C (not 2S, that's GF).

Make the spades better and I'd happily bid 1NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-20, 08:32

Playing transfer advances after a takeout double, I bid 2♥ - a good raise to 2♠. 2♠ directly would be a weak raise.

[EDIT: Sorry - misread the problem. Ignore this]
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Posted 2007-October-20, 08:47

ArtK78, on Oct 20 2007, 04:32 PM, said:

Playing transfer advances after a takeout double, I bid 2♥ - a good raise to 2♠. 2♠ directly would be a weak raise.

I think Codo's joke misled you.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 08:53

ROFL. Well spotted, Csaba.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 09:10

Easy 1NT in my style (i.e. stoppers are secondary to shape/str).
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Posted 2007-October-20, 09:16

2♣. Sounds like LHO has 6 spades.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 09:54

Hannie, on Oct 20 2007, 03:23 PM, said:

Make the hand a tiny bit better and I'd bid 3C (not 2S, that's GF).

You're right, my bad. I might prefer 1N or maybe even 2N to 3♣, though. Something to discuss with p.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 11:21

Sorry - misread the problem.

3♣ for lack of anything better. Right on values, wrong on shape. Closest to accurately describing my values.

2♣ can't be right since I would bid that on xxx xx xxx xxxxx
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Posted 2007-October-20, 12:02

2♣, admittedly could be missing game is partner is on the maximum of hands that wouldn't bid again (although color me suspicious, but doesn't this look like a hand that might have the strength for game but not make any game? I'm thinking of hands for partner like Ax AKxx Kxxx Qxx) I would try to never jump in a minor suit such as this one in a 3334 hand. If I get another chance then of course I'm not done bidding.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 13:14

I won't be jumping with this distribution for sure. So it's got to be 1NT or 2♣. I think 2♣ will give me another chance (I'll double next if possible) whereas 1NT might defenitely give me a headache next time around.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 14:46

2C

I would cue bid far more often than you guys do (our hand on high card strength), but not here with three hearts, so it has to be 2C.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 15:19

skaeran, on Oct 20 2007, 07:14 PM, said:

I won't be jumping with this distribution for sure. So it's got to be 1NT or 2♣. I think 2♣ will give me another chance (I'll double next if possible) whereas 1NT might defenitely give me a headache next time around.

huh? What's wrong with 1NT?

If pard passes, it probably has a play for.
If he moves over this, you have an easy 2/3♠ expressing doubt on the stopper.
If LHO bids 2♠ you have an easy dbl to show a max.
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Posted 2007-October-20, 15:50

2C
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Posted 2007-October-21, 00:08

whereagles, on Oct 20 2007, 11:19 PM, said:

skaeran, on Oct 20 2007, 07:14 PM, said:

I won't be jumping with this distribution for sure. So it's got to be 1NT or 2♣. I think 2♣ will give me another chance (I'll double next if possible) whereas 1NT might defenitely give me a headache next time around.

huh? What's wrong with 1NT?

If pard passes, it probably has a play for.
If he moves over this, you have an easy 2/3♠ expressing doubt on the stopper.
If LHO bids 2♠ you have an easy dbl to show a max.

RHO is probably broke and LHO probably have a 6-bagger. If partner's got a singleton spade he'll expect wasted values if I bid 1NT. We might easily miss a good partscore or game if I bid 1NT.

And no, I don't expect the auction to end here.
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Posted 2007-October-21, 01:43

If pard is min with a singleton, either RHO would have bid already or LHO is loaded and ain't gonna pass 1NT.

Anyway, it is precisely because you don't expect the auction to end here that you should make a bid that shows pretty much what you have.
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