[han]

Scoring: IMP

First seat, what's your call?

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[jillybean]

pass

[matmat]

pass or 2s. depending on mood, time of day, opps, p, state of match, form of scoring, phase of moon.

[dicklont]

2♦ multi. In first seat, knowing it could go wrong when partner has a good hand. I would feel comfortable to bid 2♦ with this hand in third seat, but would pass in second seat.

[gwnn]

oh no I can't pass these. 2♠ all day long. 64 come alive.

and yes, I could name at least 10 better players than me who would pass.

[Fluffy]

spades are too bad, so only 2♠

[jdonn]

2♠ 2♠ 2♠ 2♠ 2♠ 2♠ 2♠

[Walddk]

I would try 2♠ unless I play Multi (then 2♦).

Roland

[Mr. Dodgy]

2♠ even if I was playing Multi

[cjames]

Playing trash multi and "good" weak 2's (8-11) I think I would open 2♦. Too many points outside ♠ for a 2♠ opening.

[ralph23]

2♠ all day.

[helene_t]

2♠, not close. In second seat it's more close.

[Codo]

multi or 2 ♠ in any vul and in 1., 2. or 3. seat.

[whereagles]

2♠. More afraid of missing 4 than going -800

[ArtK78]

I find it amazing that so many players are willing to open such a ratty suit with a 2 bid vulnerable at IMPs.

Clear pass.

[helene_t]

Trash multi when vulnerable? Is that a good idea? If this hand is trash and 2♠ would be a textbook preempt, then I think both openings are underloaded. Trash multi sounds to me like a suit like J9xxx. Vulnerable I would rather combine multi with Muiderberg or some such. (Incidentally I don't play multi except when agreeing wj2005).

[fred]

ArtK78, on Oct 20 2007, 02:29 PM, said:

I find it amazing that so many players are willing to open such a ratty suit with a 2 bid vulnerable at IMPs.

Clear pass.

For some players suit quality is all-important.

But other players are comfortable opening a weak-2 (even vul) if the hand's playing strength is enough to compensate for its lack of suit quality.

These players (I am one of them) would claim that the hand in question is arguably a better hand than:

KQJ10xx
xx
xxx
xx

and being able to express the general nature of your hand is more important than being able to describe your spade suit.

But this is not a matter of right or wrong as far as I am concerned. Just make sure that you and your partner are on the same page and you will do fine.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

[pclayton]

helene_t, on Oct 20 2007, 07:05 AM, said:

Trash multi when vulnerable? Is that a good idea? If this hand is trash and 2♠ would be a textbook preempt, then I think both openings are underloaded. Trash multi sounds to me like a suit like J9xxx. Vulnerable I would rather combine multi with Muiderberg or some such. (Incidentally I don't play multi except when agreeing wj2005).

Yes - trash multi at all colors. You don't rate to open it on KJxxx red / white, more likley you have KJTxxx at adverse.

2♠ on the posted hand and I don't consider it a problem.

[jdonn]

fred, on Oct 20 2007, 10:15 AM, said:

For some players suit quality is all-important.

But other players are comfortable opening a weak-2 (even vul) if the hand's playing strength is enough to compensate for its lack of suit quality.

In fact if not vul I would open 2♠ if the spades in the example hand were changed to 765432. And I do not consider myself an aggressive preemptor.

[ArtK78]

jdonn, on Oct 20 2007, 10:35 AM, said:

fred, on Oct 20 2007, 10:15 AM, said:

For some players suit quality is all-important.

But other players are comfortable opening a weak-2 (even vul) if the hand's playing strength is enough to compensate for its lack of suit quality.

In fact if not vul I would open 2♠ if the spades in the example hand were changed to 765432. And I do not consider myself an aggressive preemptor.

What would you consider to be an aggressive preemptor? 3♠ on 765432?