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When is this hand good? going over your game

Poll: What do you need to bid 4 spades? (14 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you need to bid 4 spades?

  1. Qxx is enough (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Kxx is enough (2 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  3. KJx is enough (4 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  4. KQx is enough (3 votes [21.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.43%

  5. doesn't matter, its just not enough. (5 votes [35.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.71%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2007-October-06, 18:48

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2*-4**


2= 100% 4 cards (normally 12-14 bal, or 4441/5431 not worth 3)

4= splinter

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Posted 2007-October-07, 09:59

Kxx is enough. I've got a minimum, but nothing wasted in diamonds, and controls in both side suits. So I'll bid 4. I'm not proud of my trumps though, so this is borderline.
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Posted 2007-October-07, 13:24

Doesn't matter, not enough.

For me if this is slam going with my feeble trumps, and wasted diamonds, then partner is bidding again.
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Posted 2007-October-07, 13:36

skaeran, on Oct 7 2007, 10:59 AM, said:

Kxx is enough. I've got a minimum, but nothing wasted in diamonds, and controls in both side suits. So I'll bid 4. I'm not proud of my trumps though, so this is borderline.

I am going to disagree this time, I think I would need KQx and even then feel it is close. What I note is

- My trumps are absolutely awful.
- The jack of diamonds is wasted.
- The ace of diamonds would be more valuable in another suit (something people often forget opposite a splinter, the ace may not be wasted but is still more valuable anywhere else.)

I admit my answer may be somewhat a function of style, since I have noted through observation I tend to make this splinter lighter than other folks. But I think a very normal hand for partner would be something like Axx AQJxx x Kxxx, opposite which the 5 level is a bit risky, but where slam would be worthwhile if I had the queen of spades as well.
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Posted 2007-October-07, 13:40

Good points here, it is a bit a matter of style. Does the splinter show serious slam interest, or does it show a hand that would make slam worthwhile if partner has a really maximal and fitting hand?

I think either approach makes sense.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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