[kgr]

Scoring: IMP

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1♦-1♠
3NT-4♥
4♠
Result: 4♠-5
Playing with pick-up partner; Is 3NT with the South hand correct?

[Mbodell]

I could see opening 5♦ possibly, but prefer the 1♦ bid. Over 1♠, I think 3NT is reasonable but might consider 3♦ instead. Over 4♥ I think 5♦ should be better than 4♠.

[matmat]

3n is reasonable. shows a solidish minor and stopper in the unbid suits. in this case clubs are wide open, so not the best of choices, but still a reasonable gamble.

4h isn't that great of a call, in fact, it's pretty bad. the only time to pull the 3n there is either if you think you have slam or your spade suit is totally worthless and does not provide a stopper for NT

[gwnn]

north should pass 3NT but he probably thought it showed a chunky balanced 19 count.

it's actually good luck, -250 is better than -1100.

[PedroG]

How I see it:

He is looking at 8 tricks and countin on you to have one trick and ♣ stop or that opp's don't find that lead.

I would leave it there, correcting to ♥ doesn't improve and switch back to ♠ I don't understand since 4♥ seems better

Pedro

[matmat]

PedroG, on Sep 30 2007, 05:54 AM, said:

I would leave it there, correcting to ♥ doesn't improve and switch back to ♠ I don't understand since 4♥ seems better

Pedro

how does 4h seem better?
why can't p be 6♠ 5♥?

i think a correction is nearly mandatory there.

[gwnn]

matmat, on Sep 30 2007, 12:59 PM, said:

PedroG, on Sep 30 2007, 05:54 AM, said:

I would leave it there, correcting to ♥ doesn't improve and switch back to ♠ I don't understand since 4♥ seems better

Pedro

how does 4h seem better?
why can't p be 6♠ 5♥?

i think a correction is nearly mandatory there.

more than nearly

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

3D instead of 3NT is certainly better.
He stops hearts, you stop spade, but
who stops clubs?

Usually a 3NT rebid by opener shows a
long running suit, with shortage in
responder suit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[whereagles]

North misunderstood the 3NT rebid. He thought it was like a good 19 balanced whereas South definitely intended it as a gambling with side stop.

Nothing fancy here, except that South should have bid 3♦ if he wasn't sure pard would understand 3NT.

[kenberg]

A little lacking in clubs for 3N but still I like it. I would prefer 3D if I had Ax of clubs and xx in hearts. In that case if partner calls 3H over 3D I can happily bid 3NT. With my stops as they are, the last thing I want to hear over a 3D rebid is 3H.

Opponents cannot see through cards. Last night, watching the Bermuda Bowl, S was in 1NT wide open in diamonds and holding AKxxx opposite xxx in spades. After the lead, there were three tricks in clubs available. Opponents held the ace of hearts. Declarer won the club, played twice on hearts, ducked. Now there are an obvious 7 tricks. Declarer, however, ducked a spade after which he can be set (spade, heart, five diamonds). He wasn't. Cashing out his seven tricks would have lost imps as the opponents at the OT were in spades making more. Playing as he did, he won imps.

The point is that even at the highest level, "can be set" and "will be set" are entirely different statements. So I like 3NT.

[PedroG]

matmat, on Sep 30 2007, 05:59 AM, said:

how does 4h seem better?
why can't p be 6♠ 5♥?

i think a correction is nearly mandatory there.

Yes it's true

[mikeh]

3N is horribly wrong.

I am astounded that it got such little criticism. Admittedly N should clearly pass 3N, but so what? Is -200 that good a result? and surely that is the expectation single dummy?

And that is not 'bad luck'... it is bad bidding.

S shows solid, running diamonds and stoppers in the side suits... when the contract is a failure because his club stopper is the well-known powerhouse of xx, it cannot be chalked up to 'unlucky'.

And matters could be a lot worse. Give responder a good hand, and now responder may contract for slam. AKQxx Kxx xxx Qx.... my only worry, with that hand opposite 3N, would be missing grand opposite x Ax AKQJxxx Axx...keycard would keep me in small

Just what is wrong with a jump to 3♦? It is very tough to construct hands on which that call misses good games (not impossible, but no method bids all perfectos).

[jdonn]

Jlall, on Sep 30 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

3N is totally fine

mikeh, on Sep 30 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

3N is horribly wrong.

Glad we got that cleared up.

[skjaeran]

jdonn, on Sep 30 2007, 08:53 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 30 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

3N is totally fine

mikeh, on Sep 30 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

3N is horribly wrong.

Glad we got that cleared up.

I'll go with the wisdom of the elder here....

[jdonn]

skaeran, on Sep 30 2007, 01:57 PM, said:

jdonn, on Sep 30 2007, 08:53 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 30 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

3N is totally fine

mikeh, on Sep 30 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

3N is horribly wrong.

Glad we got that cleared up.

I'll go with the wisdom of the elder here....

Well I like 3NT. 2-2

[han]

I would bid 3D.

[matmat]

skaeran, on Sep 30 2007, 01:57 PM, said:

jdonn, on Sep 30 2007, 08:53 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 30 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

3N is totally fine

mikeh, on Sep 30 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

3N is horribly wrong.

Glad we got that cleared up.

I'll go with the wisdom of the elder here....

which one's that?

[skjaeran]

matmat, on Sep 30 2007, 09:03 PM, said:

skaeran, on Sep 30 2007, 01:57 PM, said:

jdonn, on Sep 30 2007, 08:53 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 30 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

3N is totally fine

mikeh, on Sep 30 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

3N is horribly wrong.

Glad we got that cleared up.

I'll go with the wisdom of the elder here....

which one's that?

If you don't know why don't you just look up their profiles?

(Actually, haven't looked up Mike's age, but I know he's older than me, probably about ten years older. Justin is half my age.)

[mikeh]

skaeran, on Sep 30 2007, 02:16 PM, said:

matmat, on Sep 30 2007, 09:03 PM, said:

skaeran, on Sep 30 2007, 01:57 PM, said:

jdonn, on Sep 30 2007, 08:53 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 30 2007, 11:36 AM, said:

3N is totally fine

mikeh, on Sep 30 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

3N is horribly wrong.

Glad we got that cleared up.

I'll go with the wisdom of the elder here....

which one's that?

If you don't know why don't you just look up their profiles?

(Actually, haven't looked up Mike's age, but I know he's older than me, probably about ten years older. Justin is half my age.)

I'm 54... even tho I sometimes feel a lot older