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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2007-October-02, 08:22

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(4♠) P (P) ?


4nt pick a minor, ♦'s or pass? and WHY please
or double B)
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Posted 2007-October-02, 08:55

too good to pass.
Too bad to bid.

Require a redeal.

If this is not possible, decide simply correct.

I would try 5 ♦, but I am not happy with this bid.

I strongly disagree with 4 NT. You need pd minors to be very different to make 5 Club better then 5 Diamond.

Pass is a great option. They may go down and if they make you may fail in 5 Diamonds for -1100.

But I prefer 5 Diamond. This may make, it can be an insurance if both contract fail and it is not too easy to double.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 09:05

I'd double. I would at IMPs too, but at MPs I think its clear.

What are you rooting for when pard goes into the tank? Frequently pard will pass (probably good). Sometimes pard will pull to 5♥ which isn't automatically fatal and may be a good result against 4♠, but might be a good spot if pard's suit is sufficiently strong.

Frequently pard will bid 4N which sounds great to me even though one of his suits is probably hearts.

I just don't think passing here is winning bridge.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 09:11

Isn't doubling better at imps than at MP? Anyways I'd X.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 09:17

Jlall, on Oct 2 2007, 07:11 AM, said:

Isn't doubling better at imps than at MP? Anyways I'd X.

*shrug*

Perhaps it is more important at IMPs. Pard will take the penalty more often and won't panic about +650 / +500 decisions.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 09:38

pclayton, on Oct 2 2007, 10:17 AM, said:

Jlall, on Oct 2 2007, 07:11 AM, said:

Isn't doubling better at imps than at MP? Anyways I'd X.

*shrug*

Perhaps it is more important at IMPs. Pard will take the penalty more often and won't panic about +650 / +500 decisions.

Agreed...and I prefer X to 5♦ as well.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 10:34

Double, partner usually passes which is what will make me happiest. This is way ahead of 5♦, which in turn is way ahead of 4NT (partner will choose clubs with 3-3 or 2-2 in the minors.)
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Posted 2007-October-02, 11:31

I would had bid 5♦ without a second though, reading all the above isn't making me happy :D
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Posted 2007-October-02, 11:50

Fluffy, on Oct 2 2007, 12:31 PM, said:

I would had bid 5♦ without a second though, reading all the above isn't making me happy :D

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Posted 2007-October-02, 12:52

Double, no 2nd choice. Partner will pass most of the time, and I'm happy with that.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 13:50

Dbl is excellent if pard passes, but I'm not so sure he's gonna do that with his expected 3523 or thereabouts.

I might try 4NT.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 13:55

whereagles, on Oct 2 2007, 01:50 PM, said:

Dbl is excellent if pard passes, but I'm not so sure he's gonna do that with his expected 3523 or thereabouts.

Uh, he certainly will.
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Posted 2007-October-02, 20:13

I certainly don't like 4NT for the reasons already mentioned. Double is a possibility, but like Fluffy and Nuno I think it is naive to assume pd will pass with a 5 card H suit. I will bid 5D and no, I am not happy about it but I think this is the best choice of a poor lot.
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