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I recently discovered that a local expert has a different understanding of the term "double finesse". He also used the term "combination finesse", which I hadn't heard before, is it a valid term?
What term describes the finessing possibility with the following card combinations?
AJ9 opposite xxx
AQ9 opposite xxx
AQT opposite xxx
AJT opposite xxx
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Finessing Terminology Deep, double, etc
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Posted 2007-September-27, 10:52
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Posted 2007-September-27, 11:16
According to The Official Encyclopeida of Bridge the first two are Deep Finesses (you finesse for more than two outstanding honours/cards). The latter two are Double Finesses (you finesse for two outstanding honours/cards).
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Posted 2007-September-27, 11:28
There is also of course the "two-way finesse" which some people tend to confuse with the Double Finesse. The 2-way is e.g.
♥AT9
♥KJ8
Who has the Queen?
Bridge World glossary defines "Combination finesse" as:
(1) a finesse against more than one card;
(2) a simple finesse preliminary to another finesse in the same suit.
So it appears to be a generic term that would encompass both the deep and the double finesse. Although I am far from confident that it is used with such precision in most cases.
♥AT9
♥KJ8
Who has the Queen?
Bridge World glossary defines "Combination finesse" as:
(1) a finesse against more than one card;
(2) a simple finesse preliminary to another finesse in the same suit.
So it appears to be a generic term that would encompass both the deep and the double finesse. Although I am far from confident that it is used with such precision in most cases.
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Posted 2007-September-27, 11:37
Don't forget the backward finesse and ruffing finesse.
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Posted 2007-September-27, 11:50
What about the intra-finesse? I've heard that term before, too.
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Posted 2007-September-27, 12:00
Oh yeah, and the Chinese finesse. 
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Posted 2007-September-27, 12:06
kfay, on Sep 27 2007, 01:50 PM, said:
What about the intra-finesse? I've heard that term before, too.
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Posted 2007-September-27, 12:33
Intrafinesse is one of my more, um, favored, terms.....
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Posted 2007-September-27, 14:38
We got the term from french, so we call it 'Impass'
In Spain they say there are 2 kinds of finese
AQx-xxx = Impass
Kxx-xxx = Expass
Some old ladies also say 'ampass' (with french accent) wich actually has no sense, but sounds cool.
In Spain they say there are 2 kinds of finese
AQx-xxx = Impass
Kxx-xxx = Expass
Some old ladies also say 'ampass' (with french accent) wich actually has no sense, but sounds cool.
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Posted 2007-September-27, 17:03
keylime, on Sep 27 2007, 08:33 PM, said:
Intrafinesse is one of my more, um, favored, terms.....
I thought it was the ultra-finesse
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Posted 2007-September-28, 14:21
Can anyone come up with a definition for hyper-finesse? How about super-finesse and mega-finesse?
We've got all these great prefixes, and finesses are probably feeling inadequate compared to squeezes, which have great names associated with them.
We've got all these great prefixes, and finesses are probably feeling inadequate compared to squeezes, which have great names associated with them.
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Posted 2007-September-28, 15:54
practice finesse, anyone?
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Posted 2007-September-28, 16:10
Is there a special name for the finesse often used as part of a safety play, where you have AQx(...) and first lead to the A, then later lead towards the Q? A version of this is in today's Daily Bridge Calendar. Your trumps are KJx in dummy and A9xxx in hand, and can only afford 1 loser in the suit. The recommended play is to cash the K, come back to hand and lead towards the J.
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