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Who said take out your partner's take out doubles?

Poll: your bid (32 member(s) have cast votes)

your bid

  1. 4 spades (13 votes [40.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.62%

  2. 5 clubs (14 votes [43.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.75%

  3. 5 hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 5 spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 5NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 6 clubs (5 votes [15.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.62%

  7. other (for Ken) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2007-September-28, 15:57

Scoring: IMP

S - W - N - E
1♠-4♥-X -ps
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Posted 2007-September-28, 16:00

someone stole my green cards
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Posted 2007-September-28, 16:17

Trust partner, to understand why you are bidding 4S.
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Posted 2007-September-28, 20:24

4♠
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Posted 2007-September-28, 21:30

This is a very tough hand. To make slam partner likely needs 3 out of the 4 missing keycards for clubs. We can't count on that and 5S might be too high.

So I'm going ot pick between 4S and 5C. Passing is NOT an option. I'll go with 5C because partner will more likely raise that to slam when it is right.

Not sure if that makes sense.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-September-29, 00:23

Hannie, on Sep 28 2007, 09:30 PM, said:

This is a very tough hand. To make slam partner likely needs 3 out of the 4 missing keycards for clubs. We can't count on that and 5S might be too high.

So I'm going ot pick between 4S and 5C. Passing is NOT an option. I'll go with 5C because partner will more likely raise that to slam when it is right.

Not sure if that makes sense.

I don't think it makes sense, I voted for 5♣ for the same reason, given how tired I am it can't be right.
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Posted 2007-September-29, 01:27

cherdano, on Sep 29 2007, 08:23 AM, said:

Hannie, on Sep 28 2007, 09:30 PM, said:

This is a very tough hand. To make slam partner likely needs 3 out of the 4 missing keycards for clubs. We can't count on that and 5S might be too high.

So I'm going ot pick between 4S and 5C. Passing is NOT an option. I'll go with 5C because partner will more likely raise that to slam when it is right.

Not sure if that makes sense.

I don't think it makes sense, I voted for 5♣ for the same reason, given how tired I am it can't be right.

ROFL.
I agree with 5♣ too, and it's early morning.....
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Posted 2007-September-29, 02:02

4S
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Posted 2007-September-29, 07:27

4S
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Posted 2007-September-29, 08:59

4♠
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Posted 2007-September-29, 09:37

Why 4♠, partner could be void in it?

He has to have at least 4 clubs, why is this not the suit of choice? And why only 5♣? Partner is forcing game when we could still have a 5332 11 count, why not 6♣ at least?

Also, why did we not open 2♣? We have 4 losers don't we?
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Posted 2007-September-29, 10:06

4S, too. 5-level in clubs is too much and I have to give partner some slack as his double at this level is simply card-showing.

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He has to have at least 4 clubs, why is this not the suit of choice? And why only 5♣? Partner is forcing game when we could still have a 5332 11 count, why not 6♣ at least?


The higher the level the less "strict" become the negative double and more of a "too much to pass" nature takes over. Partner is not necessarily forcing to a 5-level game here with his double - he is only saying that opposite your opening bid he has too much in values to allow the opposition to play undoubled.

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Posted 2007-September-29, 11:37

4♠.
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Posted 2007-September-29, 11:43

Partner does not need to have 4 clubs for this double. On a bad day he has only 2.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
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Posted 2007-September-29, 15:10

On a good day he has 5 :lol:

results:

4♠ -> +450
5♣ -> +920
6♣ -> -100

Partners hand

♠3
♥A
♦AQ6432
♣K8752
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Posted 2007-September-29, 15:20

ty Fluffy, I'll pay you later.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
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Posted 2007-September-29, 17:53

Now I'm just confused. If you bid 5♣ he bids 6, and if you bid 6♣ he bids 7? With 13 hcp and 1 of the top six clubs?

Can I trade him in for a newer model?
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Posted 2007-September-29, 19:27

Pretty nice hand for 13-HCP.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-September-29, 19:51

Hannie, on Sep 29 2007, 12:43 PM, said:

Partner does not need to have 4 clubs for this double. On a bad day he has only 2.

or 1
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Posted 2007-September-30, 13:28

jtfanclub, on Sep 29 2007, 11:53 PM, said:

Now I'm just confused. If you bid 5♣ he bids 6, and if you bid 6♣ he bids 7? With 13 hcp and 1 of the top six clubs?

Can I trade him in for a newer model?

Not untill its developed.

Come on, 3 keycards, 5 trumps, and partner doesn't know your 6♣ bid is mainly based on ♠KQ, and♣QJ (the cards he also covers), duplication happens, and preempts work.
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