[mike777]

1S=P

see page 3 below.

http://www.d21acbl.com/References/Conventi...tem%20Notes.pdf


1nt=6-10 pts, nonforcing after a one spade opening.

[han]

I think playing SAYC doesn't mean you have to bid like an imbecile. I'd say the most likely auction is:

1S - 1NT
2C - pass.

Passing 2C seems right, even though you have a wonderful fit.

[kgr]

Hannie, on Sep 16 2007, 07:11 AM, said:

I think playing SAYC doesn't mean you have to bid like an imbecile. I'd say the most likely auction is:

1S - 1NT
2C - pass.

Passing 2C seems right, even though you have a wonderful fit.

Is it imbicile to pass 1S?
If you bid 1NT then you expect partner to bid 2D/3D. With only 2 Q's I would pass 1S.

[mr1303]

Mark me down as an imbecile then.

I too pass 1S.

Now if it goes:

1S P P X
2C 2D I might well consider a raise to 4C, and partner may or may not give it 5, probably not after I passed 1S.

However, I think that passing 1S is correct in SAYC.

[zasanya]

There is another 'imbecilish' school of natural bidding which suggests opening 1♣ with 5-5 in black suits and 12 -17 hcp.

[P_Marlowe]

Jlall, on Sep 16 2007, 12:03 AM, said:

AKxxx K Ax KTxxx opp

xx Qxxxx x Qxxxx

red/white matchpoints. with the 5-5 black hand dealer. How do you bid these 2 hands in basic SAYC with no special gadgets.

1S - all pass

With kind regards
Marlowe

[the hog]

Yes, 1S all pass for me as well. Hmm, what is the difference between imbecilic and idiotic?

[Fluffy]

The_Hog, on Sep 16 2007, 10:50 AM, said:

Yes, 1S all pass for me as well. Hmm, what is the difference between imbecilic and idiotic?

In spannish idiotic is more familiar, essentially they are exactly the same, but while you can call someone 'idiota' in a good way, 'imbecil' is always offensive.

I also wonder why both spannish and english share this kind of words, asshole (gilipollas) has to be more 'modern' I guess.

[FrancesHinden]

1S - Pass

But I've never played SAYC, don't believe me.

[han]

The_Hog, on Sep 16 2007, 05:50 AM, said:

Yes, 1S all pass for me as well. Hmm, what is the difference between imbecilic and idiotic?

Don't ask me, I am not a native speaker.

[y66]

1S 1N : 2C 3C : 3D 4C : 5C p

[han]

Fluffy, on Sep 16 2007, 06:11 AM, said:

I also wonder why both spannish and english share this kind of words..

Well, both languages have a common root, namely Dutch.

[skjaeran]

The_Hog, on Sep 16 2007, 12:50 PM, said:

Yes, 1S all pass for me as well. Hmm, what is the difference between imbecilic and idiotic?

An imbecile has an IQ between 35 and 55, an idiot below 35.

[kenrexford]

Jlall, on Sep 16 2007, 12:03 AM, said:

no special gadgets.

I can't stand it. I must share a neat little gadget I play here.

It is called a "pass." I'm not sure if it is alertable, but it shows a hand with almost any shape, typically not good support for the major, however. It suggests weakness. I think this is a great idea for handling this sort of problem.

[Codo]

I am a dinosaur and open good black 5-5 hands 1 Club. So bidding will be something like
1 ♣ 1 ♥ 1 ♠ 2 ♣.

and I will reach 5 Club after this start.

But I thing that the opss may intervene in any given bidding, even easier after a 1 Club opening.

[Codo]

double post...

I always wondered why or how people write double posts.

Now I know.

[Gerben42]

Congratulations Codo on your first double post!

You have discovered the secret to get larger post counts

By the way I cannot imagine bidding anything other than Pass - 1♠ - Pass on these hands.

[jtfanclub]

kenrexford, on Sep 16 2007, 09:39 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 16 2007, 12:03 AM, said:

no special gadgets.

I can't stand it. I must share a neat little gadget I play here.

It is called a "pass." I'm not sure if it is alertable, but it shows a hand with almost any shape, typically not good support for the major, however. It suggests weakness. I think this is a great idea for handling this sort of problem.

Is it allowed in the ACBL?